Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Travis Willard
On Nov 30, 2007 11:47 AM, Aaron Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't rocket surgery. We need an engine transplant, STAT!

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Aaron Griffin
Holy crap people... this got way out of hand. We're discussing a footer. a footer This isn't rocket surgery. We either have it, or we don't. I turned it off on this list as a trial. Frankly, I like it simply because it's 4 less lines I have to remove when editing quotes. I do like the archive li

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Friday 30 November 2007, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > I don't know why people sing their emails when sending to a public mailing > list. Who checks all the keys and imports them? I may wanna know who the sender trully is, right? I agree that is many times not important but... it *can* be important.

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Johannes Held
Pierre Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't know why people sing their emails when sending to a public mailing > list. Who checks all the keys and imports them? That's indeed a good point. But all my emails get signed by default. And I think, that's not bad. -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://bl

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Freitag, 30. November 2007 15:21:11 schrieb bardo: > I think that by "intrusive" people meant "breaking gpg signatures". If > that's the case, I'm with them. I don't know why people sing their emails when sending to a public mailing list. Who checks all the keys and imports them? -- archlinu

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread bardo
2007/11/30, Hussam Al-Tayeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ok, I see it is a matter of taste so my opinion may be different than > you. But if a 4 word footer is intrusive, then maybe signatures should > be disallowed as well. No one really needs to know what company X works > for or what his/her GNU/Linux

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 14:45 +0100, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > On Friday 30 November 2007, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: > > A simple "ArchLinux General Mailing List" footer looks professional > > Does it need to look professional? Or do we only need the list to be > functional? > > > and is non intr

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Friday 30 November 2007, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: > A simple "ArchLinux General Mailing List" footer looks professional Does it need to look professional? Or do we only need the list to be functional? > and is non intrusive. Well, I disagree. Many people have pointed it to be intrusive too ;)

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 08:28 -0500, Travis Willard wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 8:20 AM, Vinay Shastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 6:41 PM, Johannes Held <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hussam Al-Tayeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > It will look more elegant that way

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Travis Willard
On Nov 30, 2007 8:20 AM, Vinay Shastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 6:41 PM, Johannes Held <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hussam Al-Tayeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > It will look more elegant that way. > > Let's use html-email with fancy logos and background images. > > :-) > > And

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Vinay Shastry
On Nov 30, 2007 6:41 PM, Johannes Held <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hussam Al-Tayeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It will look more elegant that way. > Let's use html-email with fancy logos and background images. > :-) And something flash based! how can you forget flash??? -- Vinay S Shastry http://v

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Johannes Held
Hussam Al-Tayeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It will look more elegant that way. Let's use html-email with fancy logos and background images. :-) -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut. http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version signature.asc Description: PGP signatu

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 14:37 +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: > I would prefer keeping at least one line > > Greg Yes, please keep at least one line that indicates the mailing list. It will look more elegant that way. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
I would prefer keeping at least one line Greg pgpNWPcnNUrUf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Rodrigo Coacci
On Nov 30, 2007 7:09 AM, Marc Deop i Argemí <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 30 November 2007, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > Ok... well - how about this - I shut it off, as a trial, on this list. > > Anyone want to yell about it? > > Great! > +1! No more deleting footers for me! :-) -- Cheers,

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-30 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Friday 30 November 2007, Aaron Griffin wrote: > Ok... well - how about this - I shut it off, as a trial, on this list. > Anyone want to yell about it? Great! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Johannes Held
"R. Dale Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, sure looks much better that way. *thumbs up* -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut. http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread R. Dale Thomas
Aaron Griffin wrote: Ok... well - how about this - I shut it off, as a trial, on this list. Anyone want to yell about it? Well, sure looks much better that way.

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Nov 29, 2007 7:36 PM, Alessio 'mOLOk' Bolognino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WE HATE YOU! -+ :) > | > V > > > ___ > arch-general mailing list > arch-general@archlinux.org

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Alessio 'mOLOk' Bolognino
On Thu 2007-11-29 21:36 , slubman wrote: > Le Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:17:49 +0100, > Johannes Held <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > > "Aaron Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > How does it break GPG/MIME? Just curious. > > GPG/MIME encrypts/signs the WHOLE email. Subject, body and > > attachments and

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Thursday 29 November 2007, slubman wrote: > I want the footer to stay, cause it add a rapid link/way to go to the > html archive of the list. Man! Set a bookmark in your browser! ;) Anyway...what's the point of the footer? Anybody knows? If it's useless...we should get rid of it. Damnshock

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Nov 29, 2007 2:36 PM, slubman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want the footer to stay, cause it add a rapid link/way to go to the > html archive of the list. I personally agree, but trimming it down 2 lines or so might be doable ___ arch-general maili

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread slubman
Le Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:17:49 +0100, Johannes Held <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > "Aaron Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > How does it break GPG/MIME? Just curious. > GPG/MIME encrypts/signs the WHOLE email. Subject, body and > attachments and attaches this to an new email. > Mail programm notices

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Johannes Held
"Aaron Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How does it break GPG/MIME? Just curious. GPG/MIME encrypts/signs the WHOLE email. Subject, body and attachments and attaches this to an new email. Mail programm notices that and shows the attached mail as original mail. Thinking about it - the footer would b

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Nov 28, 2007 3:37 AM, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Petar Bogdanovic schrieb: > > Would it be possible to remove the [arch-general] prefix from the > > subject line? It seems pretty useless to me since there are a lot of > > other headers on which a filter can be based on. The same

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Johannes Held
Am Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:33:36 +0200 schrieb Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > i would vote for getting rid of the footer as well if thats an option. > or at least shorten it a bit. its irritating when people quote & quote > without removing it. But that's not a problem of the footer. That's

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 04:15:28PM +0200, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > 2007/11/29, Jeff Mickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:37 AM, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The prefix in the subject is fine, but can we please drop the footer? > > > It's annoying and breaks GPG/MIME.

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-29 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2007/11/29, Jeff Mickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Nov 28, 2007 4:37 AM, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The prefix in the subject is fine, but can we please drop the footer? > > It's annoying and breaks GPG/MIME. > > +74 > > I hate the footer. > +1337! :P -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман К

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-28 Thread Jeff Mickey
On Nov 28, 2007 4:37 AM, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The prefix in the subject is fine, but can we please drop the footer? > It's annoying and breaks GPG/MIME. +74 I hate the footer. // codemac -- . : [ + carpe diem totus tuus + ] : . ___

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-28 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Aaron Griffin wrote: > Yeah, just keep in mind that to filter these lists you need to filter > on the To address, not the From. > These mails are "To: arch-general@archlinux.org", not from the list. > They are From the poster. Filtering by ListId is generally the most accurate, I've found. Most

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Petar Bogdanovic schrieb: > Would it be possible to remove the [arch-general] prefix from the > subject line? It seems pretty useless to me since there are a lot of > other headers on which a filter can be based on. The same goes for the > automatic signature. One gets the following headers: The p

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-28 Thread Thomas Haider
> On Nov 27, 2007 6:52 PM, Scott Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 27, 2007 5:32 PM, Allan McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > -1 from me. I filter all Arch mailing lists I subscribe to into > > > one folder. This way I can see where the message came from what > > > I can repl

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Wednesday 28 November 2007, Cesar G. Miguel wrote: > > Actually, i would like to keep that because gmail filters only works by > > subject if I'm not wrong. > > Gmail can also filter by e-mail address! That's how I use it. > > Cesar I must correct myself and say that gmail *can* filter my listi

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Nov 27, 2007 6:52 PM, Scott Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 27, 2007 5:32 PM, Allan McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -1 from me. I filter all Arch mailing lists I subscribe to into one > > folder. This way I can see where the message came from what I can reply to. > > I second

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Cesar G. Miguel
> Actually, i would like to keep that because gmail filters only works by > subject if I'm not wrong. Gmail can also filter by e-mail address! That's how I use it. Cesar ___ arch-general mailing list arch-general@archlinux.org http://archlinux.org/mail

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Scott Horowitz
On Nov 27, 2007 5:32 PM, Allan McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -1 from me. I filter all Arch mailing lists I subscribe to into one > folder. This way I can see where the message came from what I can reply to. I second that! I filter all linux mailing lists into one folder and like that it sho

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Allan McRae
Petar Bogdanovic wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 05:35:18PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > >> The main mailing list has been renamed, from "arch" to "arch-general", >> > > Would it be possible to remove the [arch-general] prefix from the > subject line? It seems pretty useless to me since t

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Wednesday 28 November 2007, Petar Bogdanovic wrote: > Would it be possible to remove the [arch-general] prefix from the > subject line? Actually, i would like to keep that because gmail filters only works by subject if I'm not wrong. Damnshock signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Petar Bogdanovic
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 05:35:18PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > The main mailing list has been renamed, from "arch" to "arch-general", Would it be possible to remove the [arch-general] prefix from the subject line? It seems pretty useless to me since there are a lot of other headers on which a

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Wednesday 28 November 2007, Aaron Griffin wrote: > Sorry for all of you that have to update your mail filter rules, but > it's better this way - I promise 8) You got me there! I recieved dozens of mail on my inbox :P signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[arch-general] Mailing list rename

2007-11-27 Thread Aaron Griffin
Hey guys, You may have noticed a new address up there in the From line (unless you got this via the announce list) The main mailing list has been renamed, from "arch" to "arch-general", and additionally "tur-users" has been renamed to "aur-general". The reason? The naming was unclear, especially