Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-18 Thread David Benfell
On 08/17/2012 04:37 PM, Justin Strickland wrote: If I recall correctly I don't believe you would have to modify any program to work with systemd, the only thing you'd have to do is create a unit for it. (Though I could be wrong please correct me if I'm wrong.)_ It is better if programs are

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 01:02:45AM +0200, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: But you linked to the Appeal to novelty fallacy, suggesting that other people argue that systemd is better just because it is new. Fallacies usually come in pairs, thus my link: changing for change's sake makes no sense; nor does

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-17 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Not because it is good software but because the other adequate software that this community depends on is going to require it. Let me know so I'm aware what the software you have in mind is if it hasn't been mentioned please. Debian and Ubuntu plus the BSDs make up far more of the user

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-17 Thread Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 03:11:16PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Not because it is good software but because the other adequate software that this community depends on is going to require it. Let me know so I'm aware what the software you have in mind is if it hasn't been mentioned

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-17 Thread Justin Strickland
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 03:11:16PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Not because it is good software but because the other adequate software that this community depends on is going to require it. Let me know so I'm aware what the software you have in mind is if it hasn't been mentioned

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-17 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Not because it is good software but because the other adequate software that this community depends on is going to require it. Let me know so I'm aware what the software you have in mind is if it hasn't been mentioned please. Debian and Ubuntu plus the BSDs make up far

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-16 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia archli...@ishpeck.net wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-16 Thread Thomas Rand
On 16 August 2012 11:08, Rodrigo Rivas rodrigorivasco...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia archli...@ishpeck.net wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition please don't continue

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-16 Thread Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:08:50AM +0200, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition I do not argue that software is good because it is old. I argue that software which is correct does not need to be changed.

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-16 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia archli...@ishpeck.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:08:50AM +0200, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition I do not argue that software is good because it is old. I argue that software which

[arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-14 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 14.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Brandon Watkins: Systemd isn't going anywhere anytime soon, its going to be adopted by RHEL (which means it would also be adopted by RHEL derivatives like CentOS), and its being adopted by major distros like fedora, opensuse, mageia etc... What are those major

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-14 Thread Leon Feng
2012/8/15 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: Am 14.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Brandon Watkins: Systemd isn't going anywhere anytime soon, its going to be adopted by RHEL (which means it would also be adopted by RHEL derivatives like CentOS), and its being adopted by major distros like fedora,

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-14 Thread Nicholas MIller
On Aug 14, 2012 6:52 PM, Leon Feng rainofch...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/15 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: Am 14.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Brandon Watkins: Systemd isn't going anywhere anytime soon, its going to be adopted by RHEL (which means it would also be adopted by RHEL derivatives

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-14 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: That's about it. As you see, I included Arch up there. As far as I can see, after Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora and openSuSE (in no particular order), Arch has been number 6 on the list of major Linux distributions

Re: [arch-general] OT: Major distributions (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-14 Thread Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 07:51:25AM +0800, Leon Feng wrote: As a rolling release, Arch is usually the leader of adopt new technology. But now, Arch is falling behind Debian now. So sad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty