On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 10:18 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:15 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
> > On 29 November 2010 00:08, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > > Once again, I say PA is far from the kind of quality I'd expect from a
> > > package in [extra], and I'm surprised the Arch devs are
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:27 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 10:18 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:15 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
> > > On 29 November 2010 00:08, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > > > Once again, I say PA is far from the kind of quality I'd expect from a
>
On 11/28/2010 06:38 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote:
Maybe wait until GNOME 3 actually gets released before put something
unstable and useless in [extra] needlessly.
our experience in packaging software, fixing bugs and debugging is far
superior than yours.
we have just made a small step in adding
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 18:44 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
> On 11/28/2010 06:38 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote:
>
> >
> > Maybe wait until GNOME 3 actually gets released before put something
> > unstable and useless in [extra] needlessly.
> >
>
> our experience in packaging software, fixing bugs and debugging
Let me answer on your points...
Fine, Then I'll list all of its problems right here:
- It's unstable.
NEVER crashed on me...
- It's got far too many unresolved bugs the upstream developers defer
INCORRECTLY elsewhere simply because they can't be bothered to fix their
software.
Possible, tho
Excerpts from Rasmus Steinke's message of 2010-11-28 18:00:52 +0100:
> Let me answer on your points...
>
> > Fine, Then I'll list all of its problems right here:
> >
> > - It's unstable.
> NEVER crashed on me...
>From the PA page:
"Current Status
The PulseAudio daemon and utilities are still under
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 10:38 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 00:27 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
>
> GNOME 3 isn't even released yet. There's no CURRENT dependency in Arch,
> in [extra], for Pulse Audio.
Others have explained this to you already.
>
> Fine, Then I'll list all of its
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 07:28:45AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> The ONLY major ALSA 'feature' which is not supported is memmap. Direct
> access to the sound-card's memory. Pulseaudio's devs are of the opinion
> that this cannot and should not be emulated, and that apps which use it
> are broken in de
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:28:45 +0800
Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> > - It's unstable.
> > - It's got far too many unresolved bugs the upstream developers defer
> > INCORRECTLY elsewhere simply because they can't be bothered to fix their
> > software.
>
> Where you've mentioned specific bugs below I'll answer
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 01:10 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 07:28:45AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
>
> > The ONLY major ALSA 'feature' which is not supported is memmap. Direct
> > access to the sound-card's memory. Pulseaudio's devs are of the opinion
> > that this cannot
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:31:06AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> Thanks fons, I was under the mmap alsa capability implied direct control
> over the hardware's memory.
It probably does in some cases (e.g. a hw: device on a PCI bus),
but only to the sample data - there's no direct access to any
contro
Morgan Gangwere wrote:
> As well, Pulse still doesn't work on my Alienware laptop. Realtek
> chipset, hda_intel picks it up as being generic. things almost work,
> except headphones. PA will only let sound go through the front
> speakers, while ALSA just has a switch. Its a known WONTFIX bug, too.
On 29.11.2010 23:25, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote:
Morgan Gangwere wrote:
As well, Pulse still doesn't work on my Alienware laptop. Realtek
chipset, hda_intel picks it up as being generic. things almost work,
except headphones. PA will only let sound go through the front
speakers, while ALSA just ha
2010/11/29 "Jérôme M. Berger" :
> Morgan Gangwere wrote:
>> As well, Pulse still doesn't work on my Alienware laptop. Realtek
>> chipset, hda_intel picks it up as being generic. things almost work,
>> except headphones. PA will only let sound go through the front
>> speakers, while ALSA just has a
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sander Jansen wrote:
> So most likely the driver needs to be fixed instead.
its not even that -- realtek's driver for it is patched against some
godforsakenly old version of ALSA.
>
>>>
>> This bug is even worse for me: the only output that PA will
>> reco
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Morgan Gangwere <0.fracta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sander Jansen wrote:
>> So most likely the driver needs to be fixed instead.
>
> its not even that -- realtek's driver for it is patched against some
> godforsakenly old version of A
Ulf Winkelvos wrote:
> On 29.11.2010 23:25, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote:
>> Morgan Gangwere wrote:
>>> As well, Pulse still doesn't work on my Alienware laptop. Realtek
>>> chipset, hda_intel picks it up as being generic. things almost work,
>>> except headphones. PA will only let sound go through the
Sander Jansen wrote:
> 2010/11/29 "Jérôme M. Berger" :
>> Morgan Gangwere wrote:
>>> As well, Pulse still doesn't work on my Alienware laptop. Realtek
>>> chipset, hda_intel picks it up as being generic. things almost work,
>>> except headphones. PA will only let sound go through the front
>>> spea
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 20:41 +0100, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote:
> Sander Jansen wrote:
> > 2010/11/29 "Jérôme M. Berger" :
> >>This bug is even worse for me: the only output that PA will
> >> recognize on my system is the HDMI output from my *video* card! I
> >> don't have any HDMI capable per
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