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Renzhi Cao
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From: arch-general on behalf of Ralf Mardorf
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From: arch-general on behalf of Ralf
Mardorf
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 12:04 PM
To: arch-general@archlinux.org
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman andupdating the
filesystem
> On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 17:49 +, Cao, Renzhi
> On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 17:49 +, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
> > By the way, I am thinking the upgrading process will only influence
> > the system, not my data partition. I still need suggestions, am I
> > think that correct? Or lack of experience.
>
> Correct, but accidents happen, so _
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Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman andupdating the
filesystem
On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 17:49 +, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
> By the way, I am thinking the upgrading process will only influence
> the system, not my data partition. I still need sugge
On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 17:49 +, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
> By the way, I am thinking the upgrading process will only influence
> the system, not my data partition. I still need suggestions, am I
> think that correct? Or lack of experience.
Correct, but accidents happen, so _backup_ your
From: arch-general on behalf of Ralf
Mardorf
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:47 AM
To: arch-general@archlinux.org
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
filesystem
On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 12:40 -0500, Kinney Baughman wrote:
> you could already have a new
From: arch-general on behalf of Kinney
Baughman
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:43 AM
To: arch-general@archlinux.org
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacmanand updating
the filesystem
On 03/08/2014 11:53 AM, Cao, Renzhi
On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 12:40 -0500, Kinney Baughman wrote:
> you could already have a new box up and running, one that
> you can be sure is trim and solid
and you will not learn something useful, if you try to repair your
broken install. You will learn what to do and forget what you learned,
becau
On 03/08/2014 11:53 AM, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
Hi,
I can reinstall the system any time, but I can learn more when trying
to fix the problem. Thank you very much!
Ah. Sorry. I didn't read this before I posted.
But I will say this while I'm here. Yes. You can learn a lot by
On 03/08/2014 01:13 AM, Bigby James wrote:
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 03:56:28AM +, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
I plan to use :
dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep GRUB
dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep LILO
to check the bootloader I have. I am really new to arch linux, but I
To: General Discussion about Arch Linux
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
filesystem
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 03:56:28AM +, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
> I plan to use :
> dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep GRUB
> dd if
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 03:56:28AM +, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
> I plan to use :
> dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep GRUB
> dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep LILO
>
> to check the bootloader I have. I am really new to arch linux, but I want to
> fix that problem. It see
PM
To: General Discussion about Arch Linux
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
filesystem
On 8 March 2014 03:29, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
> I am not sure which one is used as my boot loader, could you please tell me
> how to check that? I am thinking
On 8 March 2014 03:29, Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) wrote:
> I am not sure which one is used as my boot loader, could you please tell me
> how to check that? I am thinking using this following command:
>
> #pacman -Rs lilo
> #pacman -Rs grub-common
> #pacman -S grub
>
> Is that correct?
> Thank you
From: arch-general on behalf of WorMzy
Tykashi
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 8:52 PM
To: General Discussion about Arch Linux
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
filesystem
On 8 March 2014 02:23, Doug Newgard wrote
behalf of Doug
Newgard
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 8:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the filesystem
> From: rc...@mail.missouri.edu
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 19:30:59 -060
On 8 March 2014 02:23, Doug Newgard wrote:
>
>> From: rc...@mail.missouri.edu
>> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 19:30:59 -0600
>> To: arch-general@archlinux.org
>> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
> From: rc...@mail.missouri.edu
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 19:30:59 -0600
> To: arch-general@archlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
> filesystem
>
> Hi, it seems your method is really complex
Hi, it seems your method is really complex. Is there any simple way? For my
case, do you know how to fix the problem of lilo and grub-common?
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On Mar 7, 2014, at 17:18, Nowaker wrote:
> It seems OP is already done, but I hope this will by useful for anyone
> struggling to u
It seems OP is already done, but I hope this will by useful for anyone
struggling to upgrade a VERY old Arch Linux.
Warning: this is only for experienced users. Beginners do the backups
and install Arch from scratch.
Before proceeding, be sure to have several ssh sessions, logged as root.
Do
From: arch-general on behalf of Simon
Brand
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 1:23 AM
To: General Discussion about Arch Linux
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
filesystem
Am 07.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Caorenzhi:
> Hi, there are some files in /sbin,/usr/sb
March 7, 2014 1:23 AM
To: General Discussion about Arch Linux
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the
filesystem
Am 07.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Caorenzhi:
> Hi, there are some files in /sbin,/usr/sbin. Should I just remove them
> directly and then run pacman -s
Hi
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 16:21 +, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
>> If the last time you updated was before 2012-11-04, there's a good
>> chance you never made the switch to systemd, which will make things
>> even harder for you.
>
> ... for sev
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 16:21 +, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
> If the last time you updated was before 2012-11-04, there's a good
> chance you never made the switch to systemd, which will make things
> even harder for you.
... for several reasons, e.g. eth0 likely will become enp3s0.
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 16:15 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> You are right, only files in /bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin should be gone.
> Everything should be in /usr/bin after the update.
JFTR if I build packages for private usage, I prefer to install
to /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, those packages
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 04:20 -0300, Andres Fernandez wrote:
> I think you should boot with an Arch Installer, then chroot and try to fix
> your system removing the package that has files on those directories,
> following the steps on the Arch news about this issue. An then update
> again. I think th
On Friday 07 Mar 2014 09:26:19 Caorenzhi wrote:
> Thank you! I remember when I run the command to find out the packages I
> should remove, it shows: lilo, grub-common, initvlinux( something like
> this), but I don't know how to move them to /usr/bin. I try directly mv
> lilo to /usr/bin, and use th
On Friday 07 Mar 2014 09:12:39 Caorenzhi wrote:
> Thank you Paul, I will check it in my lab later and tell you the details.
I
> try add ip eth0 yesterday , and the system says there is no eth0.
In that case, you need to do:
# ip link
to see a list of your network interfaces. It might not be cal
Thank you! I remember when I run the command to find out the packages I should
remove, it shows: lilo, grub-common, initvlinux( something like this), but I
don't know how to move them to /usr/bin. I try directly mv lilo to /usr/bin,
and use the command to search which package I should remove, it
Am 07.03.2014 16:09, schrieb Caorenzhi:
> Do I also need to remove files in /usr/bin as you said? Or you mean
> /usr/sbin, /sbin, /bin?
You are right, only files in /bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin should be gone.
Everything should be in /usr/bin after the update.
> Since that is what I see the error f
Thank you Paul, I will check it in my lab later and tell you the details. I try
add ip eth0 yesterday , and the system says there is no eth0.
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On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:01, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
> On Friday 07 Mar 2014 08:46:02 Caorenzhi wrote:
>> Thank you for your good sugge
That is my fault. Do I also need to remove files in /usr/bin as you said? Or
you mean /usr/sbin, /sbin, /bin? Since that is what I see the error from at
beginning. There are a lot of files in /sbin, should I remove all of them? Let
me check my system in my lab and I will reply you later for deta
On Friday 07 Mar 2014 08:46:02 Caorenzhi wrote:
> Thank you for your good suggestion! I think I can use pacman to
remove the
> packages, however, I cannot connect to Internet after chroot, so
cannot use
> pacman to update. Do you have any idea?
Assuming you can plug your computer in with an ethe
Am 07.03.2014 15:51, schrieb Caorenzhi:
> Yes, I try pacman -Su, and they said the /usr/sbin is exists. I am thinking
> that is ok, so I reboot the system.
The instructions explicitly stated that this is NOT okay.
> I have a cd to load the system, and I have another computer to download
> packa
Yes, I try pacman -Su, and they said the /usr/sbin is exists. I am thinking
that is ok, so I reboot the system. I have a cd to load the system, and I have
another computer to download packages and have a external hard disk to use,
like copy files there.
Is there still any way to solve my proble
Thank you for your good suggestion! I think I can use pacman to remove the
packages, however, I cannot connect to Internet after chroot, so cannot use
pacman to update. Do you have any idea?
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On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:20, Andres Fernandez
wrote:
> I think you should boot with a
Am 07.03.2014 07:06, schrieb Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student):
> After this, I use the following command to update the system:
> pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem,bash
> pacman -S bash
>
> and then reboot, get the following information:
And why didn't you complete the instructions by running 'pacman -Su'
b
Am 07.03.2014 08:13, schrieb Caorenzhi:
> Hi, there are some files in /sbin,/usr/sbin. Should I just remove them
> directly and then run pacman -s filesystem? I find out that I cannot access
> the internet this time, can I still use that command?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at
I think you should boot with an Arch Installer, then chroot and try to fix
your system removing the package that has files on those directories,
following the steps on the Arch news about this issue. An then update
again. I think that this will solve your trouble.
Andrés Fernandez
Software Peronis
Hi, there are some files in /sbin,/usr/sbin. Should I just remove them directly
and then run pacman -s filesystem? I find out that I cannot access the
internet this time, can I still use that command?
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:07, Simon Brand wrote:
> Am 07.03.2014 07:49, sch
Am 07.03.2014 07:49, schrieb Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student):
> Now, for my problem, is there any way to repair that? Or you think I should
> reinstall my arch linux system?
I am not a fan of reinstalling only to fix the system, but you should
update more frequently ;)
Chroot into your system, then loo
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From: arch-general on behalf of Ralf
Mardorf
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 12:27 AM
To: arch-general@archlinux.org
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the filesystem
PS:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.
PS:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/arch_filesystem_hierarchy
It does link to
https://www.archlinux.org/news/binaries-move-to-usrbin-requiring-update-intervention/
;)
When did you run the last update? The filesystem hierarchy changes and
the switch to systemd were done a long, long time ago.
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -ld /bin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 May 31 2013 /bin -> usr/bin
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -ld /sbin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 May 31 2013 /
Hi,
I get some problems about pacman. At beginning, I use pacman -Syu to
update the system, and then I cannot login the system. I checked the internet,
and then use CD to load the system, and use
pacman -Syu mkinitcpio systemd linux, and get the following information:
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