On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 20:25 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 01:14:47PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
>
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need.
>
> PA is indeed a great consumer thing, and it may be what
> you need. It is definitely not what some o
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:37:14 -0600
schrieb C Anthony Risinger :
> is this roughly message you want to send?
No, this is not the message, and I guess you totally misunderstood me.
The problem is that PulseAudio is not working with every sound and
audio card, but users are forced to install it as
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:14:47 -0600
schrieb Leonid Isaev :
> PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need.
That may be exactly what you need, but not what we need. Otherwise we
all could stick with Windows. You can read your e-mails and write some
letters with Windows. So why usin
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 01:14:47PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need.
PA is indeed a great consumer thing, and it may be what
you need. It is definitely not what some others need.
> Because noone cares about "pro" audio solutions
You me
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:29:28 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Please please please not again!!!
> >
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because
> > noone cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nightmare t
Thanks.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Please please please not again!!!
> >
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because
> noone
> > cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nig
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> > Please please please not again!!!
> >
> > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because
> noone
> > cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nightmare to
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> Please please please not again!!!
>
> PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because noone
> cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nightmare to configure.
>
> PA goes far beyond you KDE/gnome to embedded syst
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 12:37 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> dear Lennart and co.,
>
> make sure that your software is 100% optional and free of dependencies
> in either direction.
>
> signed,
>
> Your Friends in the Community
Dear my Friends in the Community,
PA already is optional.
Please
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:24:07 +0100
Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:25 +
> schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
>
> > PA is for 'consumer' use, its scope ends at ITU 5.1 or so.
> > It doesn't support any serious multichannel card (like the
> > the comlete RME series, up to 64+64 channels)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Heiko Baums wrote:
>
> If Lennart would either fix all those issues in PulseAudio and systemd,
> so that they would really work for everybody and would really bring
> advantages for everybody or at least no disadvantages, or if his
> software would just be optiona
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:34:32 +
schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
> It's part of a more general trend, that of dependencies on
> specific desktop junk trickling down into even basic system
> components and plain apps.
And that's a problem. This should be changed again.
> And it's staring to affect Ar
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:22:05 +0100
schrieb Stefan Wilkens :
> Does this really need to be rehashed yet again? This isn't arch
> related yet these PA back and forths keeps popping up in the mailboxes
> of all the registered people looking for arch-related content.
>
> I didn't follow the original
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:24:07PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> If PulseAudio was generally only optional and if its developers
> wouldn't try to declare it as a standard, I just wouldn't care.
It's part of a more general trend, that of dependencies on
specific desktop junk trickling down into ev
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:25 +
schrieb Fons Adriaensen :
> PA is for 'consumer' use, its scope ends at ITU 5.1 or so.
> It doesn't support any serious multichannel card (like the
> the comlete RME series, up to 64+64 channels). Users of such
> cards don't need or want PA, so it's really not a
2012/1/28 Heiko Baums :
> Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:29:33 +0100
> schrieb Ralf Mardorf :
>
>> The majority of Linux users on non-audio Linux mailing lists praise
>> PA, ...
>
> And the most computer users use Windows. So what's the point? That
> doesn't mean that Windows is better than Linux or that W
Am Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:29:33 +0100
schrieb Ralf Mardorf :
> The majority of Linux users on non-audio Linux mailing lists praise
> PA, ...
And the most computer users use Windows. So what's the point? That
doesn't mean that Windows is better than Linux or that Windows works
perfectly.
I'm sure th
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