Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Ng Oon-Ee's message of Wed Jan 20 13:08:19 +0100 2010: > On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 04:43 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 05:12:31PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > Probably because (in my experience at least) top-posting occurs much > > > more frequently than "me too"

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Marti Raudsepp wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Steve Holmes > wrote: >> Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse >> chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and >> nobody seems to complain about that concept. >

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Damien Churchill
2010/1/20 Johannes Held : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Steve Holmes : >> If I addopt bottom posting, I plan then to delete all but the most recent >> post to keep thing conscise. > Sure! That's the right(tm) way to do it. ;-) > >> Actually I'm run into *MANY* of these huge

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Johannes Held
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Holmes : > If I addopt bottom posting, I plan then to delete all but the most recent > post to keep thing conscise. Sure! That's the right(tm) way to do it. ;-) > Actually I'm run into *MANY* of these huge long threads in a single > message to h

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Marti Raudsepp
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse > chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and > nobody seems to complain about that concept. Separate blog posts are typically unrelated, so there is no reas

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 04:43 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 05:12:31PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > Probably because (in my experience at least) top-posting occurs much > > more frequently than "me too" posts at least, probably more frequently > > than improper quoting as well.

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Steve Holmes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 05:12:31PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > Probably because (in my experience at least) top-posting occurs much > more frequently than "me too" posts at least, probably more frequently > than improper quoting as well. And yet wh

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-16 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 09:31 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > Not sure why some people are so nazi on top posting when improper > quoting and "me too" posts are the actual problem. Probably because (in my experience at least) top-posting occurs much more frequently than "me too" posts at least, prob

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-16 Thread Arvid Picciani
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:33:20 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > If bottom-posting is so passionately desirable, then may I suggest > people trim down the history of a thread. One is supposed to add their answer to the bottom of the _quote_ not the mail. People who do otherwise are indeed worse then

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-14 Thread Thayer Williams
On Jan 11, 2010 at 09:27 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > I also find mutt's 'T' helps. It hides the quoted text. OMG how did I NOT know that! You sir, deserve a cookie. That just made mutt so much more enjoyable on my netbook.

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-14 Thread Marti Raudsepp
Obligatory: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? (sorry if you've seen this too many times already) Regards, Marti

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-13 Thread Guus Snijders
On 12-01-10 19:32, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders wrote: On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: [top posting& trimming ] I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with top postin

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:17 PM, ludovic coues wrote: > 2010/1/12 Aaron Griffin > >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders >> wrote: >> > On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: >> > >> > [top posting & trimming ] >> > >> >> I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmai

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread ludovic coues
2010/1/12 Aaron Griffin > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders > wrote: > > On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: > > > > [top posting & trimming ] > > > >> I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail > >> webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Attila
At Dienstag, 12. Januar 2010 06:27 Loui Chang wrote: > I also find mutt's 'T' helps. It hides the quoted text. Very nice feature. Does anyone knows if this is possible in knode too? See you, Attila

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Loui Chang
On Tue 12 Jan 2010 19:28 +0100, Guus Snijders wrote: > On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: > >I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail > >webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with top posting > >replies and sending HTML emails. I have requested that they ch

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders wrote: > On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: > > [top posting & trimming ] > >> I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail >> webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with top posting >> replies and sending HTML em

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Guus Snijders
On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: [top posting & trimming ] I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with top posting replies and sending HTML emails. I have requested that they change the defaults, but haven't got

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:08:37AM +0100, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: > By the way, how do you search in the archives of the archlinux ML ? > especially on several months ? With Mutt's limit command. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the def

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Simon Boulay wrote: >> >> google e.g. to search for "foobar" in arch-dev-public: >> >> foobar site:http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/ >> >> (42 hits!) > > There is also gmane.org: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.devel > http://news.gm

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Simon Boulay
On 01/12/2010 11:13 AM, Allan McRae wrote: solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: Le mardi 12 janvier 2010 à 12:48 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee a écrit : [...] and its really tough to go through archives (for example, when googling about an issue) when there's top-posting involved. That's actually my primary reason for b

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread Allan McRae
solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: Le mardi 12 janvier 2010 à 12:48 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee a écrit : [...] and its really tough to go through archives (for example, when googling about an issue) when there's top-posting involved. That's actually my primary reason for bottom-posting. By the way, how do you sea

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-12 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
Le mardi 12 janvier 2010 à 12:48 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee a écrit : > [...] and its > really tough to go through archives (for example, when googling about an > issue) when there's top-posting involved. That's actually my primary > reason for bottom-posting. > By the way, how do you search in the archive

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-11 Thread Loui Chang
On Mon 11 Jan 2010 21:33 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > re-read the old stuff over and over again. Nothing annoys me more > than haveing to page through five generations of past messages in a > single thread to get all the way to the bottom just to have a single > line of text say something like "Th

Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-11 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 21:33 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > If bottom-posting is so passionately desirable, then may I suggest > people trim down the history of a thread to the most recent 1 or 2 > generations back. Or maybe even better, just reply with no quoting > and and briefly summarize the quo

[arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-11 Thread Steve Holmes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 I've been seeing some very passionate pleeds in posts lately concerning top-posting of replies. I, for one, don't really mind seeing top-posted e-mails like that because I can see the reply quickly and if the thread is current in my mind, I don't