Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-03 Thread Mauro Santos
Yes, same answer, you get owned. In fact, even with a password required, the 5 minute grace window for sudo does you in - some bad guy just keeps trying to sudo, until you do it legitimately, thereby allowing it freely for 5 minutes, and then he's got root. Isn't it possible to lock that to

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-03 Thread Ray Kohler
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, same answer, you get owned. In fact, even with a password required, the 5 minute grace window for sudo does you in - some bad guy just keeps trying to sudo, until you do it legitimately, thereby allowing it

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-02 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/01/2010 05:03 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: What would worry me is things like JavaScript exploits and worms - things that you download and then run as yourself, whether intentionally or not. A password prompt will block malware like that, but with no password, you just go owned in one step.

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-02 Thread Ray Kohler
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:24 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On 03/01/2010 05:03 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: What would worry me is things like JavaScript exploits and worms - things that you download and then run as yourself, whether intentionally or not. A password prompt

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-02 Thread sand_man
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:24:20 -0600 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On 03/01/2010 05:03 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: What would worry me is things like JavaScript exploits and worms - things that you download and then run as yourself, whether intentionally or not. A password

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-02 Thread Ray Rashif
On 03/03/2010, Ty John ty...@eye-of-odin.com wrote: On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:24:20 -0600 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On 03/01/2010 05:03 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: What would worry me is things like JavaScript exploits and worms - things that you download and then run as

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-01 Thread Florian Pritz
On 03/01/2010 07:58 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: As the comment says, the entry causes pam to implicitly trust members of the wheel group. Eliminating the need to type a 14 char pw 10 times a day is a time-saver. PAM itself should be pretty secure, but what you are trying to achieve

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-01 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/01/2010 01:14 PM, Florian Pritz wrote: On 03/01/2010 07:58 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: As the comment says, the entry causes pam to implicitly trust members of the wheel group. Eliminating the need to type a 14 char pw 10 times a day is a time-saver. PAM itself should be pretty

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-01 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 17:58, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:        It worries me to think about the possible security implications, but the lazy side of me sure does like the convenience :p It's also a bigger issue if you use ssh or a vpn where you could potentially be

Re: [arch-general] Tired of being asked for a password for su? Arch has the solution

2010-03-01 Thread Ray Kohler
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On 03/01/2010 01:14 PM, Florian Pritz wrote: On 03/01/2010 07:58 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:      As the comment says, the entry causes pam to implicitly trust members of the wheel group. Eliminating the