Re: [arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-19 Thread Bennett Piater
> Other than that, I don't like gentoo's way of dealing with this > problems other than the fact they ship tooling to actually deal with > the 3-way merge pacman expects from the user. I'd welcome suggestions > on this and actually was not smart enough up to now to somehow have a > script dig up th

Re: [arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-19 Thread Martin Kühne via arch-general
Please, never ever seriously consider making pacman surprising in any way resembling to what has been unsuccessfully proposed. Does the pacman wiki suggest running the following line after updates yet? find /etc /opt /usr /var -regextype egrep -regex '\*.pac(new|save)' A section describing the re

Re: [arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-18 Thread Doug Newgard
On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:25:00 -0600 "David C. Rankin" wrote: > Here, anyone relying on remote access via wpa_supplicant is left dead in the > water unless they catch the comment as it scrolls by before rebooting. (yes > they should review the comments, but with human nature what it is...) > An

Re: [arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-18 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 12/18/2016 04:16 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > Update messages are hard to see if they scroll past quickly, or when updating > via scripts. On the other hand, pacman.log contains "warning:" lines that show > which files were renamed. And why do you believe that logs are only useful > post-mortem? N

Re: [arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-18 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 09:40:29PM +0100, Maarten de Vries wrote: > On 18 December 2016 at 21:32, Leonid Isaev > wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 02:25:00PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > > > I know this is small-potatoes stuff, but I just wonder if in these > > > instances, it may not be

Re: [arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-18 Thread Maarten de Vries via arch-general
On 18 December 2016 at 21:32, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 02:25:00PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > > I know this is small-potatoes stuff, but I just wonder if in these > > instances, it may not be better to either provide pre-update notice or > do a > > post-install script r

Re: [arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-18 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 02:25:00PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > I know this is small-potatoes stuff, but I just wonder if in these > instances, it may not be better to either provide pre-update notice or do a > post-install script rather than relying on a post update action by the user? > At l

[arch-general] Why was wpa_supplicant.conf renamed wpa_supplicant.conf.pacsav??

2016-12-18 Thread David C. Rankin
Arch devs, I'm left wondering what purpose was served by not providing a pre-update note or post-install restoration of any existing .pacsave found? The new sample wpa_supplicant.conf is in /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf. If this was simply due to a pacman default action wh