Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-15 Thread Florian Pritz
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:08:55 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: > On 08/13/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: > > AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped > > up and > > added support to devtools for putting split packages in different repos. > > Nobody > > willing to do th

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Damian Nowak
>> AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up >> and >> added support to devtools for putting split packages in different repos. >> Nobody >> willing to do the work is a valid reason. > Excellent. I'll tackle that then. Good luck! Let us know about a progress.

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:09:46 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: There is a reason the other distros publish the debug symbols. It's valuable and there's no valid reason not to. AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up and ad

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Doug Newgard
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:09:46 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: > There is a reason the other distros publish the debug symbols. It's > valuable and there's no valid reason not to. AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up and added support to devtools for putting split

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 10:58 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: Bandwidth is probably the main problem, although anyone who wants to debug will probably be fine with that. I think you guys misunderstood me. The biggest problem IMHO with building debug ver

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: > >>Bandwidth is probably the main problem, although anyone who wants to debug > >>will probably be fine with that. > >I think you guys misunderstood me. The biggest problem IMHO with building > >debug > >versions locally is not compiling

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 06:55 AM, Evan Penner wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled by default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but s

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 06:47 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled by default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not crucial in most cases. Cheers, There's no

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Evan Penner
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: > > >> I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging > enabled > > >> by > > >> default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not > > >> crucial

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: > >> I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled > >> by > >> default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not > >> crucial in > >> most cases. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > > > > There's no perf

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Evan Penner
On 08/12/2015 05:02 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: >> >>> It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every >>> other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely >>> rebuilding a >>> package, saving countle

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-12 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/12/2015 05:02 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely rebuilding a package, saving countless combined hours.

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-12 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: > It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every > other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely rebuilding a > package, saving countless combined hours. > > Why can't we just have a way of instal

[arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-12 Thread Joe Julian
It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely rebuilding a package, saving countless combined hours. Why can't we just have a way of installing the symbols? When I find a bug, I don't want to spend another

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 15.04.2013 17:40, schrieb William Giokas: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 07:52:00PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: >> The issues that prevent split packages going across repos are entirely >> different to what is required to keep a separate debug package repo. >> >> In fact, I will provide the needed patc

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories

2013-04-14 Thread Allan McRae
On 15/04/13 05:24, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:14 PM, William Giokas <1007...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What I would propose (and I've implemented this locally fine) is to have >> a separate series of repositories named [$repo-debug] that only contain >> the -debug package

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories

2013-04-14 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:14 PM, William Giokas <1007...@gmail.com> wrote: > What I would propose (and I've implemented this locally fine) is to have > a separate series of repositories named [$repo-debug] that only contain > the -debug packages, allowing those that don't bother with testing or >

[arch-general] debug package repositories

2013-04-13 Thread William Giokas
All, With the inclusion of the debug option in pacman 4.1.0, I think it makes sense to do something with this in the official repositories. I've sifted through some bug reports asking for inclusion of the debug symbols in a separate package or repository officially for testing purposes. With [extr