Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-29 Thread Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 06:36:22PM +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote: A distro fork would be the absolute worst outcome imaginable (imo) of the initscripts vs systemd schism... Assuming you mean a fork of Arch, I agree. But consider ArchHURD downstream. They'll have no choice but to do something

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 07:18 -0600, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 06:36:22PM +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote: A distro fork would be the absolute worst outcome imaginable (imo) of the initscripts vs systemd schism... Assuming you mean a fork of Arch, I agree.

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-29 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:39 +0100, Peter Cannon wrote: Oh and as a side note a rolling release means it rolls, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/roll if it stops because of a breakage or a change in file structure

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-28 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:46:30 +0530 Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Monday 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 AM Joakim Hernberg wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-28 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:55:06 +0200 Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu wrote: $ pacman -Qi shows me that kdebase-workspace depends on consolekit, which in turn depends on polkit. The above comment seems to suggest that kde will soon depend on systemd. Maybe I should add that I think this support

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-28 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 28.08.2012 04:16, schrieb Shridhar Daithankar: On Monday 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 AM Joakim Hernberg wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-28 Thread Kevin Chadwick
But who knows, I can imagine that there are so many old time linux users that would hate installing something like systemd even if they use kde as DE. With a bit of luck someone willl step up and maintain an alternative to consolekit/polkit that doesn't require systemd. In most cases there

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-28 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 28 August 2012 16:01, Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:55:06 +0200 Joakim Hernberg j...@alchemy.lu wrote: $ pacman -Qi shows me that kdebase-workspace depends on consolekit, which in turn depends on polkit. The above comment seems to suggest that kde will soon

Re: [arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-28 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:45:04 +0800 Rashif Ray Rahman sc...@archlinux.org wrote: Having libpulse or systemd live on your system isn't going to do any harm while you're adapting to the change. There's always a way to do what you want, and there's always another KISS operating system. Given the

[arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]

2012-08-27 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Monday 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 AM Joakim Hernberg wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on systemd. The next Gnome version will require systemd