Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-07 Thread Attila
At Samstag, 8. Januar 2011 01:17 Karol Babioch wrote: > You shouldn't let this any gamer hear, although most of them are > properly using windows for that ;). I don't think that using UDF with DVD-RAM is only important for gamer.-) See you, Attila

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-07 Thread Karol Babioch
Am 07.01.2011 01:16, schrieb Ulf Winkelvos: > we are bleeding edge and optical disks are so 90's! You shouldn't let this any gamer hear, although most of them are properly using windows for that ;). Best regards, Karol Babioch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-06 Thread Ulf Winkelvos
On 06.01.2011 10:50, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 06.01.2011 00:51, schrieb Matthew Monaco: Devs, Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's without it for a while now. Let's disable it and see how long it takes for people to notice that they can't mount DVDs without UDF s

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-06 Thread Tom Gundersen
It seems like there is already agreement to keep BKL enabled, but for what it's worth here are my two cents: As explained by Andi Kleen , the disabling of BKL has no impact on end users. The benefit might come later, as the absence of BKL allows optimizations to be m

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-06 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:50 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 06.01.2011 00:51, schrieb Matthew Monaco: > > Devs, > > > > Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's > > without it for a while now. > > Let's disable it and see how long it takes for people to notice that > t

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-06 Thread fons
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:38:41PM -0200, Bernardo Barros wrote: > 2011/1/5 Ng Oon-Ee : > > At this point in time leaving it enabled for compatibility in kernel26 > > is fine IMO. Those who need it disabled for specific reasons (the one I > > can think of is task latency for audio) should already b

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-06 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 06.01.2011 00:51, schrieb Matthew Monaco: > Devs, > > Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's > without it for a while now. Let's disable it and see how long it takes for people to notice that they can't mount DVDs without UDF support. signature.asc Description: O

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Ray Rashif
On 6 January 2011 09:38, Bernardo Barros wrote: > 2011/1/5 Ng Oon-Ee : >> At this point in time leaving it enabled for compatibility in kernel26 >> is fine IMO. Those who need it disabled for specific reasons (the one I >> can think of is task latency for audio) should already be used to >> compil

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Alexander Lam
At this point the BKL doesn't cause much performance loss: "The Big Kernel Lock is a giant lock that was introduced in Linux 2.0, when Alan Cox introduced SMP support for first time. But it was just an step to achieve SMP scalability - only one process can run kernel code at the same time in Linux

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/1/5 Ng Oon-Ee : > At this point in time leaving it enabled for compatibility in kernel26 > is fine IMO. Those who need it disabled for specific reasons (the one I > can think of is task latency for audio) should already be used to > compiling patched kernels, so it wouldn't be a big deal for n

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 19:45 -0500, Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 01/05/2011 07:23 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Matthew Monaco > > wrote: > >> Devs, > >> > >> Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's without > >> it for a while now. > >> > > >

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:28:42 -0600 Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 05:51:02 pm Matthew Monaco wrote: > > Devs, > > > > Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's > > without it for a while now. > > What is BKL? The Big Kernel Lock, search the Web there

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 01/05/2011 07:23 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote: Devs, Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's without it for a while now. Leave it enabled. It's important for compatibility with older drivers. The thing is, and

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 05:51:02 pm Matthew Monaco wrote: > Devs, > > Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's without > it for a while now. What is BKL?

Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Jan Steffens
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote: > Devs, > > Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's without > it for a while now. > Leave it enabled. It's important for compatibility with older drivers.

[arch-general] kernel 2.6.37 BKL

2011-01-05 Thread Matthew Monaco
Devs, Any plans about the BKL setting in .37? I've been running the rc's without it for a while now.