Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-02 Thread hollunder
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 02:26:39 +0100 Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: Oh shit, seriously? Looks like I'll have to rebuild this as well. Serious question: does ANYONE have a keyboard that didn't automatically

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 16:40 +0100, hollun...@gmx.at wrote: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 02:26:39 +0100 Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway hal is dead : http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009/Notes?highlight=%28hal%29|%28udev%29#head-754e4968dd043dcf2166dff61afd7d0d06c5 But since that

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-02 Thread Smith Dhumbumroong
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:58:20 +0100 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Jan de Groot wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 19:45 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: nope. The hal crap has been added to X a while ago as optional (meaning X would just freeze without it, but at least pretend to start) ,

[arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Arvid Picciani
obviously i do NOT want to remove xorg-server. i don't need evdev, but: :: xorg-server: requires xf86-input-evdev=2.2.5 so no removing it either. the mirror i'm using has been updated today (December 1th), and i'm not using testing. mirrors package versions: xorg-server 1.7.2-2

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 12:43 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: obviously i do NOT want to remove xorg-server. i don't need evdev, but: :: xorg-server: requires xf86-input-evdev=2.2.5 so no removing it either. the mirror i'm using has been updated today (December 1th), and i'm not using

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Ionut Biru
On 12/01/2009 01:43 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote: obviously i do NOT want to remove xorg-server. i don't need evdev, but: :: xorg-server: requires xf86-input-evdev=2.2.5 so no removing it either. the mirror i'm using has been updated today (December 1th), and i'm not using testing. mirrors package

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Arvid Picciani
Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 12:43 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: obviously i do NOT want to remove xorg-server. i don't need evdev, but: :: xorg-server: requires xf86-input-evdev=2.2.5 so no removing it either. the mirror i'm using has been updated today (December 1th), and i'm not

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Arvid Picciani
Arvid Picciani wrote: warning: cannot resolve hal=0.5.13, a dependency of xorg-server never mind my bitching. rebuilding xorg-server without hal was a matter of abs,edit,makepkg 3 arch -- Arvid Asgaard Technologies

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Daenyth Blank
2009/12/1 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org: Arvid Picciani wrote: warning: cannot resolve hal=0.5.13, a dependency of xorg-server never mind my bitching.  rebuilding xorg-server without hal was a matter of abs,edit,makepkg 3 arch Are you using -Syu or are you trying to just randomly -S

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Arvid Picciani
Aaron Griffin wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/1 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org: Arvid Picciani wrote: warning: cannot resolve hal=0.5.13, a dependency of xorg-server never mind my bitching. rebuilding xorg-server without hal was a

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Aaron Griffin wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/1 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org: Arvid Picciani wrote: warning: cannot resolve hal=0.5.13, a dependency of

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Arvid Picciani
Aaron, Oh shit, seriously? Looks like I'll have to rebuild this as well. It's your distro. I fail to see the whole reason why you have always been in support of KISS and the arch way, but never seem to take action to enforce it. Maybe it's something social, which i tend to be ignorant

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: Aaron, Oh shit, seriously? Looks like I'll have to rebuild this as well. It's your distro. I fail to see the whole reason why you have always been in support of KISS and the arch way, but never seem to take action to enforce

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 19:45 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: nope. The hal crap has been added to X a while ago as optional (meaning X would just freeze without it, but at least pretend to start) , but the forced dependency is new (as in, it doesnt start when compiled with hal, but no hal

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Arvid Picciani
Jan de Groot wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 19:45 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: nope. The hal crap has been added to X a while ago as optional (meaning X would just freeze without it, but at least pretend to start) , but the forced dependency is new (as in, it doesnt start when compiled with

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: Oh shit, seriously? Looks like I'll have to rebuild this as well. Serious question: does ANYONE have a keyboard that didn't automatically work before this debacle? External keyboard always Just Worked without

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: I have yet to see someone serious and informed saying input hotplug sucks. All xorg developers I have seen (on the web : ML, blogs, irc, ...) seem to agree this new infrastructure is much better. Just to be clear, I am one of

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread vlad
Why is hal dead? More information on this and on libudev? Vlad --

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 19:57 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: I have yet to see someone serious and informed saying input hotplug sucks. All xorg developers I have seen (on the web : ML, blogs, irc, ...) seem to agree this new