Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice

2012-09-30 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:10:36PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Do I understand correctly that you simply want to disable systemd > setting ACL's on your device nodes? That is indeed my main concern. In particular, audio devices should be available to whoever is a member of the 'audio' group, an

Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice

2012-09-30 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 09:59:17AM -0600, Matthew Monaco wrote: > Your login sessions from the display manager, virtual terminal, and ssh will > all > be very similar (if not identical) if you have the same settings in > /etc/pam.d/{,login,sshd}. That may very well be true, but would it solve t

Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice

2012-09-30 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > (from ): The documentation of logind could indeed be better. Hopefully the manpage systemd-logind(5) will provide more complete information in the future. > An absolute requireme

Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice

2012-09-30 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 09/29/2012 03:29 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:59:45PM +0200, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: > >> Well, you can disable the registering of systemd-logind sessions by >> deleting the lines with "pam_systemd.so" from the files /etc/pam.d/*. Not >> sure if that will be enough, or

Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice

2012-09-29 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> In particular there's no place for polkit > or anything similar here. > > I'd want things to be configured that way 'once and for all', meaning that > a) I'm not really looking forward to having to do this for each and every > device or command, and b) that a routine system update (a frequent en

Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice

2012-09-29 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:59:45PM +0200, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: > Well, you can disable the registering of systemd-logind sessions by > deleting the lines with "pam_systemd.so" from the files /etc/pam.d/*. Not > sure if that will be enough, or even wise. > And now that you are into it, you could d

Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice

2012-09-29 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > Hello all, > > During the past days I've been reading the sytemd manpages, and I'm > more or less prepared to reconfigure one the systems I manage to use > systemd. The main thing that scares me off is the 'consolekit style' > login managem