Re: [arch-general] Fwd: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers

2021-11-02 Thread Sam Mulvey via arch-general
On 11/2/21 18:47, Christopher W. via arch-general wrote: Nowhere. Arch does not allow users to submit updates via the bug tracker. If they did, and actually accepted them, I think the outdated package problem wouldn't be quite as bad as it is now. I've long wished that there was a clearer wa

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Billy Morgan via arch-general
Thank you Emil for the response. Something had to be done. There is 0. I Repeat ZERO communication from the devs and maintainers. I don't mean to be rude. I love Arch. I do this out of care. If embarrassment is what it takes to actually get some movement, some communication then so be it. This h

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Emil Lundberg via arch-general
Hi Billy, I'm sure you have good intentions, but please don't do it like this. If you want to help I'm sure that's appreciated, but with this "NEW RECORD" tone you're just being rude. Being rude is not an effective way to convince people to help you or let you help them. There are better ways to po

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers

2021-11-02 Thread Christopher W. via arch-general
On Tuesday, November 2nd, 2021 at 9:33 PM, mar77i via arch-general wrote: > > Where can I post updated PKGBUILDs for review and addition to testing in > order to help? Nowhere. Arch does not allow users to submit updates via the bug tracker. If they did, and actually accepted them, I think the

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers

2021-11-02 Thread mar77i via arch-general
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 2:26 AM, Sam Mulvey via arch-general wrote: > On 11/1/21 16:39, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote: > > > we the community WANT TO HELP. > > ... > > > [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date > > These two positions

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers

2021-11-02 Thread Sam Mulvey via arch-general
On 11/1/21 16:39, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote: we the community WANT TO HELP. ... [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date These two positions seem to be somewhat at odds. -Sam

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Matt Madness via arch-general
The nature of Arch Linux is to be bleeding edge, however, a little out of date ness can be healthy as it can provide some much needed stability. I suppose the supposed problem of instability of a bleeding edge rolling release distro is solved when there's so many packages not being updated. M

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread mar77i via arch-general
On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 1:21 AM, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote: > https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=flag_date&flagged=Flagged I updated 2021-10-06 the last time and just found 241 packages waiting for me. It would be interesting to know the amount of outdated packages at th

[arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Billy Morgan via arch-general
https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=flag_date&flagged=Flagged

Re: [arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 13:58:46 +0200, Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general wrote: >I would personally not touch it with a 100 foot pole either. Hi, in Germany "ALG" is the term/abbreviation for a very antisocial and highly controversial unemployment benefit :D. Germans unlikely will confuse "ALG" with "Arc

[arch-general] Can someone step in and fix this?

2021-11-02 Thread Simon Perry via arch-general
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/71587 The maintainer hasn't responded in ages and it seems like a simple dep addition. Cheers. -- Simon Perry

Re: [arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Fabian Bornschein via arch-general
I consider myself reasonable familiar with it, but the fact that it does have the "Arch Linux" branding all over the place while knowing the trademark policy (a bit) kicks me off. Thats why I was asking. Am Di, 2. Nov 2021 um 13:58:46 +0200 schrieb Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general : For someone

Re: [arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general
Still, that is very much subjective. Their first statement is "Welcome to Arch Linux GUI. A fast, offline & graphical installer for Vanilla Arch Linux!". For someone who's reasonably familiar with the distribution this makes it quite obvious that the project is not approved, endorsed or distr

Re: [arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Morten Linderud via arch-general
On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 01:31:20PM +0200, Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general wrote: > "We recognise and encourage the concept of a "remix." Remixes are derived > versions of Arch Linux, and it is intended that any software and hardware > certifications will apply to a Remix. Therefore the changes from o

Re: [arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general
"We recognise and encourage the concept of a "remix." Remixes are derived versions of Arch Linux, and it is intended that any software and hardware certifications will apply to a Remix. Therefore the changes from official Arch Linux products must be minimal to be permitted to use the Trademarks

Re: [arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Morten Linderud via arch-general
On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 01:17:27PM +0200, Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general wrote: > Actually, as per the Trademark Policy[1], there should be no issue as the > changes are "minimal and unsubstantial". Providing your own ISO and repositories along with predefined configuration is not a "minimal" nor "

Re: [arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general
Actually, as per the Trademark Policy[1], there should be no issue as the changes are "minimal and unsubstantial". Best regards, Vasi Vilvoiu [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy On 11/2/21 12:57, Fabian Bornschein via arch-general wrote: Hello, I just found the

[arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

2021-11-02 Thread Fabian Bornschein via arch-general
Hello, I just found the "Arch Linux GUI (ALG)" project * * That claims to install Arch Linux. Since the project gains more track now I wonder, is it allowed to use the Arch Linux trademarks in word and logo form?

Re: [arch-general] Fwd: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers

2021-11-02 Thread Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general
While I don't think the problem is _as_ dramatic as you're making it to be, there is definitely a reduction in activity for a time now. Even if you compare the archives of arch-general this year vs 2019 you can see an importand drop in the number of messages. Why this happened I don't know and