[arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Billy Morgan via arch-general
https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=flag_date&flagged=Flagged

[arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Maxim Fomin via arch-general
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 12:27 AM, Emil Lundberg via arch-general wrote: > Trans rights is politics Exactly, and it has no place in technical (programming, software) list. > However, human rights (including trans rights) and equality is the one > pol

[arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-04 Thread Maxim Fomin via arch-general
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 7:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: > On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 06:27:19 +, Maxim Fomin via arch-general wrote: > > > Any kind of political agenda (including LGBT rights, left-liberal > > > > political agenda in general

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread mar77i via arch-general
On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 1:21 AM, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote: > https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=flag_date&flagged=Flagged I updated 2021-10-06 the last time and just found 241 packages waiting for me. It would be interesting to know the amount of outdated packages at th

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Matt Madness via arch-general
The nature of Arch Linux is to be bleeding edge, however, a little out of date ness can be healthy as it can provide some much needed stability. I suppose the supposed problem of instability of a bleeding edge rolling release distro is solved when there's so many packages not being updated. M

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Emil Lundberg via arch-general
Hi Billy, I'm sure you have good intentions, but please don't do it like this. If you want to help I'm sure that's appreciated, but with this "NEW RECORD" tone you're just being rude. Being rude is not an effective way to convince people to help you or let you help them. There are better ways to po

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-02 Thread Billy Morgan via arch-general
Thank you Emil for the response. Something had to be done. There is 0. I Repeat ZERO communication from the devs and maintainers. I don't mean to be rude. I love Arch. I do this out of care. If embarrassment is what it takes to actually get some movement, some communication then so be it. This h

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Antonio Rojas via arch-general
El miércoles, 3 de noviembre de 2021 1:21:24 (CET), Billy Morgan via arch-general escribió: https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=flag_date&flagged=Flagged Ignoring for a moment the inapropriate tone of the message, I'll just point out that this number is completely meaningless, for the simple

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Morten Linderud via arch-general
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:17:37AM +0100, Antonio Rojas via arch-general wrote: > El miércoles, 3 de noviembre de 2021 1:21:24 (CET), Billy Morgan via > arch-general escribió: > > https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=flag_date&flagged=Flagged > > > > Ignoring for a moment the inapropriate tone of

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Jelle van der Waa via arch-general
Hi, On 03/11/2021 04:03, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote: Thank you Emil for the response. Something had to be done. There is 0. I Repeat ZERO communication from the devs and maintainers. I don't mean to be rude. I love Arch. I do this out of care. If embarrassment is what it takes to actu

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general
We have the gcc suite that is out of date. We have gdb that was (for some reason) split from binutils that is actually up to date, and this creates some (minor) issues. They are maintained by different developers, which shows that not only are they not communicating with the community, they are

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Ralph Corderoy via arch-general
Hi Billy, > I don't mean to be rude. ... > LET US (community) HELP YOU! Please stop SHOUTING, for that's how it reads. For emphasis, either work on the choice of words to better convey your meaning or apply *stress* indicators. -- Cheers, Ralph.

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Ralph Corderoy via arch-general
Hi Antonio, > I'll just point out that this number is completely meaningless, for > the simple reason that it counts *pkgnames* and not *pkgbases*. > So, for instance, firefox-developer-edition contributes almost 100 > packages to the total count. Would an accurate count of how many pkgbases are

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Christopher W. via arch-general
On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 4:27 AM, Morten Linderud via arch-general wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:17:37AM +0100, Antonio Rojas via arch-general > wrote: > Now, > > Please stop posting FUD people. This all started with a misguided reddit > thread > > and currentl spun on 4chan as

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Morten Linderud via arch-general
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 09:20:10AM +, Christopher W. wrote: > On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 4:27 AM, Morten Linderud via arch-general > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:17:37AM +0100, Antonio Rojas via arch-general > > wrote: > > Now, > > > > Please stop posting FUD people. This

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Óscar García Amor via arch-general
El mié, 3 nov 2021 a las 9:28, Morten Linderud via arch-general (< arch-general@lists.archlinux.org>) escribió: > https://repology.org/repositories/statistics > > 7909 updated packages, 84.9%, > 1393 outdated packages, 15.0%. > A 15% not is a _small percentage_. IMHO I do not think it is a neglig

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Wed, 03 Nov 2021 09:20:10 +, Christopher W. wrote: >You're the same reddit mod who swiftly deletes all threads every year >that Arch changes its logo to a rainbow and users (rightly) complain >that a purely technical project should not force politics down users' >throats. Hi, IIRC Arch nev

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Samir Nassar via arch-general
On Wednesday 3 November 2021 10:37:01 CET Morten Linderud via arch-general > First of all: Trans rights are not politics. It's about human rights. > For that I got death threats a couple of times and some alt-rights claiming > I'll be hanged. I assure you it was a "fun" month. Thank you for your

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general
On 11/3/21 11:37, Morten Linderud via arch-general wrote: Then I guess they posted this on 4chan because they love stirring up shit like this. This isn't about helping anyone. This is nothing but FUD and being self-righteous. Expecting overworked maintainers to do more while not lifting a finger

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Samir Nassar via arch-general
On Wednesday 3 November 2021 11:47:32 CET Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general wrote: > That's unfair to your userbase. There's no way for people to contribute > to core packages, period. Community packages require being a TU, which > as far as I know is not an easy process to go through. The AUR does not

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Morten Linderud via arch-general
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 12:47:32PM +0200, Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general wrote: > On 11/3/21 11:37, Morten Linderud via arch-general wrote: > > > > Then I guess they posted this on 4chan because they love stirring up shit > > like > > this. This isn't about helping anyone. This is nothing but FUD

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general
On 11/3/21 13:07, Samir Nassar via arch-general wrote: On Wednesday 3 November 2021 11:47:32 CET Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general wrote: That's unfair to your userbase. There's no way for people to contribute to core packages, period. Community packages require being a TU, which as far as I know is

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Christopher W. via arch-general
On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 5:37 AM, Morten Linderud wrote: > > First of all: Trans rights are not politics. It's about human rights. Do you see the fallacy here? You've taken a controversial opinion, assumed it as fact, and framed the rest of the self-justification around that. "Trans

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Yaro Kasear via arch-general
Can we get this transphobe off this list, already? They're already showing an unwillingness to say something productive and now they're just shitting over entire classes of people. Yaro On 11/3/21 12:41 PM, Christopher W. via arch-general wrote: > On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 at 5:37 AM, Mor

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Sam Mulvey via arch-general
On 11/3/21 10:47, Yaro Kasear via arch-general wrote: Can we get this transphobe off this list, already? They're already showing an unwillingness to say something productive and now they're just shitting over entire classes of people. Seconded, fwiw.   It is clear that they the "political" a

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Ody Ν via arch-general
Στις Τετ, 3 Νοε 2021 στις 7:55 μ.μ., ο/η Sam Mulvey via arch-general < arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> έγραψε: > > On 11/3/21 10:47, Yaro Kasear via arch-general wrote: > > Can we get this transphobe off this list, already? > Yeah, do that. Smear and cancel whomever won't agree with your own op

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Yaro Kasear via arch-general
I don't feel bad about smearing or canceling bigots. Fuck off. Yaro On 11/3/21 1:23 PM, Ody Ν via arch-general wrote: > Στις Τετ, 3 Νοε 2021 στις 7:55 μ.μ., ο/η Sam Mulvey via arch-general < > arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> έγραψε: > >> On 11/3/21 10:47, Yaro Kasear via arch-general wrote: >>>

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Ody Ν via arch-general
Στις Τετ, 3 Νοε 2021 στις 8:25 μ.μ., ο/η Yaro Kasear via arch-general < arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> έγραψε: > I don't feel bad about smearing or canceling bigots. Fuck off. > Thanks for proving publicly what you are.

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread riveravaldez via arch-general
Hi, everybody, just another Arch user here (also other distros user in fact), very thankful of all the excellent services this excellent project has brought me, freely (in every sense), for many years now, from the OS to the wiki, through the repos and community help. Seems to me that Arch has som

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-03 Thread Emil Lundberg via arch-general
Trans rights is politics, but that's not a bad thing. Human rights is politics. Veganism is politics. Free and open source software is politics. Just because something is "tech" doesn't make it apolitical, nor should it be. However, human rights (including trans rights) and equality is the one pol

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 06:27:19 +, Maxim Fomin via arch-general wrote: >Any kind of political agenda (including LGBT rights, left-liberal >political agenda in general) is offtopic here. Yes, but nobody excepted of intolerant subscribers are offended by human rights, including the freedom of sexua

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 08:25:23 +, Maxim Fomin via arch-general wrote: >‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > >On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 7:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf via >arch-general wrote: > >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 06:27:19 +, Maxim Fomin via arch-general >> wrote: >> > Any kind of political

Re: [arch-general] NEW RECORD! 769 packages out of date

2021-11-04 Thread Jelle van der Waa via arch-general
On 04/11/2021 09:42, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 08:25:23 +, Maxim Fomin via arch-general wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, November 4th, 2021 at 7:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 06:27:19 +, Maxim Fomin