Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread David C. Rankin
On 8/3/23 10:50, Damjan Georgievski wrote: That's a huge miss-representation. Please don't read "The Register" for Linux tech information. Wow, Usually The Register is dead-on with tech news, but they really screwed-the-pooch on their systemd 254 article. If this is nothing but a new subco

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Guus Snijders
Op do 3 aug. 2023 12:24 schreef David C. Rankin : > Arch devs, > >I read that systemd 254 will enable a soft-reboot similar to how > windows > does fast-boot does it. > Slightly OT here, but Windows' fastboot is for accelerating shutdown, not reboot. I often tell users to reboot instead of sh

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread leoutation
On 8/3/23 12:58, Paul Dann wrote: On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 11:24, David C. Rankin mailto:drankina...@gmail.com>> wrote:    I read that systemd 254 will enable a soft-reboot similar to how windows does fast-boot does it. (The Register: https://go.reg.cx/tdml/dfd67/64f3cc7f/8aaa3ef6/

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Damjan Georgievski
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 12:24, David C. Rankin wrote: > > Arch devs, > >I read that systemd 254 will enable a soft-reboot similar to how windows > does fast-boot does it. (The Register: > https://go.reg.cx/tdml/dfd67/64f3cc7f/8aaa3ef6/49jh) That's a huge miss-representation. Please don't read "

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Simon Perry
On 2023-08-03 09:59 PM, Andy Pieters wrote: even if there is no such switch, you can always choose the power-down system and do a cold boot. Indeed, and even so, I haven't read anything saying that soft-booting will be mandatory. -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz)

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Andy Pieters
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 12:38, Simon Perry wrote: > On 2023-08-03 08:24 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > > > I have no need for a soft-reboot that will cause issues with > > dual-booting and kernel updates. > > > > Anybody know if, and how we will be able to do it? > > even if there is no such switch,

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Simon Perry
On 2023-08-03 08:24 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: I have no need for a soft-reboot that will cause issues with dual-booting and kernel updates. Anybody know if, and how we will be able to do it? It really seems like you're making some huge assumptions that it's gonna be the end of the universe

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Paul Dann
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 11:24, David C. Rankin wrote: >I read that systemd 254 will enable a soft-reboot similar to how > windows > does fast-boot does it. (The Register: > https://go.reg.cx/tdml/dfd67/64f3cc7f/8aaa3ef6/49jh) [...] >Personally, just like on windows, I want to permanently

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Uwe Sauter
Also, have a look at the "System Commands" section of th man-page to systemctl, https://man.archlinux.org/man/systemctl.1.en Am 03.08.23 um 12:29 schrieb Uwe Sauter: > Reading the related man-page [1] I suppose that it is up to the user > initiating the reboot whether > the system is soft or cold

Re: systemd 254 - How will we disable soft-reboot?

2023-08-03 Thread Uwe Sauter
Reading the related man-page [1] I suppose that it is up to the user initiating the reboot whether the system is soft or cold rebooted. Quoting: 'Note that systemd-soft-reboot.service (and related units) should never be executed directly. Instead, trigger system shutdown with a command such as