Tony,
I am confused by your post.
You state that "The point of "needs based" distribution is to preclude a
run-on-the-bank-because-you-can" wrt the free pool.
You then state that "One could go so far as to argue that "need" in an
IPv4 market distribution model is less about conservation, and mor
On 6/10/13, Tony Hain wrote:
> Chris, [snip]
> starting point, it might make more sense to have Arin hire a professional
> survey developer to create the questions for an "unbiased about the
> outcome" > manner as possible.
Professional survey developers are expensive, and we don't need for
1) needs-based
No. Well, maybe. This is not a question conducive to yes/no answers.
Traditional needs assessments and methods are going to need to shift, this
question does not really frame or suggest any of the options for that
change.
2) routability
Yes.
3) Uniqueness
Yes, overriding goal
4
On Jun 9, 2013, at 15:26 , Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Chris Grundemann
> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>
>
> I am going to differentiate between principals and practices.
> Practices should not be in the (resulting) principals document
> (practices should be, and in
On 6/10/13, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On 6/10/13, Tony Hain wrote:
> Professional survey developers are expensive, and we don't need for
> membership fees to go up for more expensive policy development,
> requiring professional survey developers.It's also important to
> understand, that any surve
On 6/7/13 7:16 AM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
Hello all,
As the shepherd for ARIN-2013-4, I'd like to note that while the
initial conversation on this draft policy was fairly constructive,
more recent comments have gone a bit off topic. Rather than debating
the history of internet governance it wou
Jason Schiller wrote:
Tony,
I am confused by your post.
You state that "The point of "needs based" distribution is to preclude a
run-on-the-bank-because-you-can" wrt the free pool.
You then state that "One could go so far as to argue that "need" in an
IPv4 market distribution model is less abo
Milton,
Point taken about the specific proposal, BUT:
One could take Chris' questions & the entirety of 2013-4 as a soul-searching
referendum on what many believe are Arin's fundamental operating principles
& mission statement, and as such those need an unbiased survey. One could
also argue that d
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> For anyone keeping score:
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann
> wrote:
> > 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need
> > (Conservation/Sustainability)?
>
> 6 of 16 respondents in favor, 9 opp
Tony
These are very valuable and insightful comments. I would take issue only with
one part of your conclusion:
> While the survey is a great
> starting point, it might make more sense to have Arin hire a professional
> survey developer to create the questions for an "unbiased about the
> outcome
Chris,
It is not my intent to criticize your effort here, because I agree with the
overall goal of establishing operating principles. That said, as with any
survey, the selection of questions, and the tone can/will greatly influence
the outcome. In that light, I would submit that this list of ques
my android sent this
On Jun 10, 2013 12:18 PM, "William Herrin" wrote:
>
> For anyone keeping score:
Anyone keeping score probably doesn't need you to do it for them... ;-)
This also is likely a bit premature. I'd like to encourage more folks, who
haven't responded yet, to provide their t
For anyone keeping score:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
> 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need
> (Conservation/Sustainability)?
6 of 16 respondents in favor, 9 opposed, 1 did not offer an answer
that could be interpreted as support or
...SNIP...
1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need
(Conservation/Sustainability)?
I think it is important to differentiate between the the free pool and the
transfer pool when we answer this question.
I believe in the principle of utilization based on need for
On 06/07/2013 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
...SNIP...
>
> 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need
> (Conservation/Sustainability)?
Yes, I support the principle.
The policy mechanisms that support this principle should be different
for ASNs, IPv4 addresses, IPv
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