On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Jason Schiller jschil...@google.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:28 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
Jason's closed-door partisan draft.
I appreciate this is a difficult topic.
I tried to keep this draft as simply recording the current state of
Hi Paul,
Principles should apply always, in every condition, so I cringe at your use
of the term current guiding principles whose adjectives seem to vitiate
the strength of the word.
The goal of conservation dictated a practice of needs based allocation in
the condition of free pool
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:05:12 -0400
Hi Mike,
It feels like we have been here before,
Mike Burns m...@nationwideinc.com wrote:
Hi Brian,
I understand that there is a danger of overpurchasing (by whomever's
definition) that comes from the removal of a needs test for transfers.
In most cases
Hi Larry,
Yes, we have been here before.
This conversation is in the context of considering a cap on needs-free
transfers.
Such a cap would obviate the objection you raise, that competitors will
gobble up enough IPv4 address to stifle their competitors' ability to
acquire more.
No matter how
I would be opposed to a flat out cap that allows requests under a
certain size to not require need and requests over that size to require
need.
This is an unfair burden to organizations who require lots of address
space for growth.
Consider a small rural residential ISP, with a /22.
- This ISP
On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:35 AM, l...@mwtcorp.net wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:05:12 -0400
Hi Mike,
It feels like we have been here before,
Mike Burns m...@nationwideinc.com wrote:
Hi Brian,
I understand that there is a danger of overpurchasing (by whomever's
definition) that comes
Hi Jason and thanks for your interesting reply.
As you know, my original proposal was not based on a cap that is based on the
size of the entity, but instead on the number of addresses allowed to be
transferred without a needs test per annum.There was a suggestion that this cap
instead be
See inline comments.
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Brian
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mike Burns m...@nationwideinc.com wrote:
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your thoughts.
No doubt a more vigorous transfer market will lead to more router
misconfigurations.
I think a knowledgeable middle-man could help mitigate that,