Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-01 Thread John Curran
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:00 PM, xiaofan yang wrote: > Hi John, > > Thanks for your reply. So if we do not want to return the address, we can > have them transferred for sale? > and ARIN will not treat our 8.2 transfer as the disguise of 8.3 transfer if > 8.3 transfer come next after the 8.2 t

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-01 Thread xiaofan yang
Hi John, Thanks for your reply. So if we do not want to return the address, we can have them transferred for sale? and ARIN will not treat our 8.2 transfer as the disguise of 8.3 transfer if 8.3 transfer come next after the 8.2 transfer? Niki On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:50 AM, John Curran wro

Re: [arin-ppml] Subject: ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improved 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

2014-04-01 Thread Jay Martin
Hi Kevin, Have you known that one ARIN member who received 23.192.0.0-23.211.255.255 from free pool also strongly supports this anti-language proposal? meanwhile, they have applied a very large apnic pre-approval (hope) for transferring their "old" ips into its apnic account. So, i think it w

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-01 Thread John Curran
On Apr 1, 2014, at 7:34 PM, xiaofan yang mailto:nikiyan...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi John, We would like to do a 8.2transfer because of our restructure. However, the transferred ips are underutilized. based on your comments in the list, it seems that if those ips are lack of utilisation, ARIN wil

Re: [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal

2014-04-01 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:21 PM, William Herrin wrote: >> >> > Change for change's sake is rarely for the better. Stability is > > Agreed. > >> >> > usually a good thing. I don't see

[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-01 Thread xiaofan yang
*Hi John, * *We would like to do a 8.2transfer because of our restructure. * *However, the transferred ips are underutilized. based on your comments in the list, it seems that if those ips are lack of utilisation, ARIN will ask us to return those ips or ARIN will not approve our transfer ?*

Re: [arin-ppml] 2600::/12 LOA

2014-04-01 Thread David Huberman
Whether it's no-op or op, please note that an LOA is actually a "Letter of Agency". Maybe some networks now call it a Letter of Authority, but it's properly Agency. David R Huberman Microsoft Corporation Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS) From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bou

Re: [arin-ppml] 2600::/12 LOA

2014-04-01 Thread Martin Hannigan
It's a no op then. There's no need to mention LOA's at all. On Tuesday, April 1, 2014, Heather Schiller wrote: > > The suggested text restricting LOA is: "ARIN will not issue a Letter of > Authority (LOA) to route a research prefix unless the allocation is > properly registered in whois." > > T

Re: [arin-ppml] 2600::/12 LOA

2014-04-01 Thread Heather Schiller
The suggested text restricting LOA is: "ARIN will not issue a Letter of Authority (LOA) to route a research prefix unless the allocation is properly registered in whois." The text does not specifically restrict ARIN from issuing an LOA altogether, it requires that the resource be registered in wh

Re: [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal

2014-04-01 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:21 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > > Change for change's sake is rarely for the better. Stability is > Agreed. > > usually a good thing. I don't see rotating out AC members having a > > negative impact on ARIN's

Re: [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal

2014-04-01 Thread Paul Andersen
John (Springer), The Governance Committee of the Board has been looking at a variety of broader issues recently. As a committee we've been cautious to not let Governance issues monopolize our limited bandwidth. Many similar organizations can consume themselves in governance exercises and lose

Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal

2014-04-01 Thread Sweeting, John
Cool, thanks for the clarification Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:35 PM, "Jesse Geddis" mailto:je...@la-broadband.com>> wrote: John, Honestly I shouldn't have bothered responding to his email as it was clearly just meant to be a diversion. However: Chris opposes it so it clearly wa

Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal

2014-04-01 Thread Sweeting, John
Jesse Not sure who else you are referring to but Chris is not a sitting AC member. Thanks John Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:48 AM, "Jesse Geddis" mailto:je...@la-broadband.com>> wrote: Rotflol conspiracy theories abound. Completely ignoring the fact that the two folks to broache

Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal

2014-04-01 Thread Chris Grundemann
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Paul Timmins wrote: > > > > From: arin-discuss-boun...@arin.net [arin-discuss-boun...@arin.net] on > behalf of Martin Hannigan [hanni...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:02 PM > > To: William Herrin > > Cc: arin

Re: [arin-ppml] Subject: ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improved 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

2014-04-01 Thread Kevin Kargel
While I want to say I did not appreciate the violence of the original message I do agree with the sentiment. Let's not make it easy to siphon off ARIN resources. Kevin From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Bill Darte Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 1

2014-04-01 Thread Chris R. Squatritto
I am out of the office this week and will not be checking email. Please contact Troy Miller for assistance.. Thank you for contacting me, and have a great day. ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy

Re: [arin-ppml] 2600::/12 LOA

2014-04-01 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:52 PM, John Curran wrote: >> On Mar 31, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:00 AM, John Curran wrote: NRPM 11 was designed for parties requesting allocations from

Re: [arin-ppml] Subject: ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improved 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

2014-04-01 Thread Bill Darte
Jay, I appreciate that you have a view to express that is opposed to the Draft Policy. I understand that you may even be upset about it and that you believe that the motivation is contrary to the community's interest. But I think that your personalized attack on the author is unwarranted and outs