Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-08 Thread Bill Darte
All these arguments are most interesting, but of course nothing is certain until the LAST judge says so...I for one would be/have been anxious to see these principles tried in court. If I were a betting man, I would believe that whatever argument seemed to establish the greatest order and stabilit

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-08 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:33 AM, John Curran wrote: > On Apr 8, 2014, at 6:21 AM, William Herrin wrote: > >> or, at the absolute most, a reading of RFC 2050 with all ambiguity >> construed in the registrants' most favorable light. > > Accepting the point above for sake of argument, here's th

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-08 Thread David Farmer
On 3/24/14, 13:08 , Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 21, 2014, at 15:51 , David Farmer wrote: On 3/21/14, 09:10 , Gary Buhrmaster wrote: Any M&A, or organization changes, have a cost regarding business records, and it is incumbent on the organization to be prepared to pay that cost for changes.

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-08 Thread John Curran
On Apr 8, 2014, at 6:21 AM, William Herrin wrote: > or, at the absolute most, a reading of RFC 2050 with all ambiguity > construed in the registrants' most favorable light. Accepting the point above for sake of argument, here's the relevant section of RFC 2050 - " 7. The transfer of I

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-08 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:54 AM, John Curran wrote: > Probably best to refer to RFC 2050, since your resources were managed > by the InterNIC at that time, and RFC 2050 states: "This document > describes the IP assignment policies currently used by the Regional > Registries to implement the guideli

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-08 Thread John Curran
On Apr 7, 2014, at 6:07 PM, William Herrin wrote: >> Note that RFC 2050 was operative at that time, with language requiring the >> recipient to meet the same criteria as when qualifying to receive space; i.e. >> Even under your assertions above, legacy holders doing transfers would be >> still be