Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-14: Removing Needs TestfromSmall IPv4 Transfers

2014-06-23 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 23, 2014, at 07:40 , Mike Burns wrote: > The fact that the distribution both with and without needs basis seems to > fall along roughly the same lines in terms of block size distribution seems > to me to say that elimination of needs basis testing has not shown to have > any meaningful

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy discussion - Method of calculating utilization ARIN-2014-17

2014-06-23 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Andrew, The destiny of this policy proposal is somewhat influenced by ARIN-2014-14. If needs testing were eliminated on "Small" transfers (as defined by ARIN policy), then ARIN-2014-17 may be obsolete. I continue to support ARIN-2014-17 on the premise that it is much less controversial than -14 an

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-14: Removing Needs Test fromSmall IPv4 Transfers

2014-06-23 Thread Kevin Kargel
Out of curiosity, how many transfers have there been from APNIC to ARIN in the same time frame? Does anyone besides me want to bet on zero? Kevin > -Original Message- > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On > Behalf Of McTim > Sent: Monday, June 23, 20

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-14: Removing Needs Test fromSmall IPv4 Transfers

2014-06-23 Thread McTim
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote: > Milton's conclusion in the research for his article: > > http://www.internetgovernance.org/2014/06/20/baby-steps-and-big-differences-in-address-transfer-market/ > > indicates that the significant majority of the transfers as a result of the

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-14: Removing Needs TestfromSmall IPv4 Transfers

2014-06-23 Thread Mike Burns
The fact that the distribution both with and without needs basis seems to fall along roughly the same lines in terms of block size distribution seems to me to say that elimination of needs basis testing has not shown to have any meaningful effect, in fact. Owen Hi Owen, This also means no e