Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > If I send a bunch of junk mail from my house, or play music really > loud late at night, does the city come and take my street address away? The city arrives in the form of police who politely ask if you'd like to spend the night at a diff

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread Matthew Kaufman
If I send a bunch of junk mail from my house, or play music really loud late at night, does the city come and take my street address away? Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) > On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > The Municipal government (city, county, etc.) in conjunction w

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread Owen DeLong
The Municipal government (city, county, etc.) in conjunction with the Planning department usually sets the policies by which they are issued. The police and/or code enforcement divisions of the municipal government generally take care of the enforcement side. Not sure how this relates to the d

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Bon Onlines wrote: > What do you think about the number of ARIN ips belongs to spammers > nowadays? I think ARIN shouldn't be in the anti-spam business and I think they'd do more harm than good if they tried. Spam is tricky. It involves unappealable value judgments

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Who regulates the "appropriate use" of street addresses? Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) > On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:50 PM, John Von Stein > wrote: > > Should Colt be held accountable to police the use of hand guns? Or Pfizer > for medication schedule compliance? Or teachers for our chi

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread McTim
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 6:19 AM, John Von Stein wrote: > Agreed, and as mentioned below, there is no rule-of-law without > enforcement. > > > > So the question is who or what should be the enforcement (police, judge) > of proper IP usage? I don’t think that’s ARIN’s role. > The role of ARIN (

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread John Von Stein
Agreed, and as mentioned below, there is no rule-of-law without enforcement. So the question is who or what should be the enforcement (police, judge) of proper IP usage? I don’t think that’s ARIN’s role. ARIN makes the rules (as does the House and Senate) but Congress certainly is not tasked

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers?

2014-11-07 Thread Bon Onlines
Hello John, " The point is that ARIN is the administrator of IP numbers but each of us is responsible for the proper use of them. " This statement is correct, but the main point is, why should ARIN assign more IPs to the companies who are abusing their own IP Assignments? If ARIN is the administr