Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread John Springer
Well said, David. Thank you. John Springer On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:23 PM, David Farmer wrote: > In the most general sense a state is a corporation. See; > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation#History Further, in most cases > the agencies of a state are not independent but sub-parts of

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread David Farmer
In the most general sense a state is a corporation. See; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation#History Further, in most cases the agencies of a state are not independent but sub-parts of the whole. Therefore, moving resources between agencies should more properly be considered a reorganization

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Richard J. Letts
That is a question for ARIN staff to weigh in on. What “independently verifiable evidence” would be acceptable if no assets (I assume this means servers or routers rather than human beings) using the resources are being moved? Richard From: Scott Leibrand [mailto:scottleibr...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Scott Leibrand
Wouldn't the existing language ("The recipient must provide independently verifiable evidence that they have acquired the assets that use the resources to be transferred from the current registrant.") be good enough for those scenarios? The additional OR clause seems mostly meant to deal with defu

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Richard J. Letts
This assumes that only corporate entities merge, acquire, or re-organize. How would state agencies or an inter-institution research group produce the required documentation to facilitate the movement of resources given the lack of independently verifiable information? Similarly, a function migh

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Larry Ash
I also support. John Springer <3jo...@gmail.com> wrote: Greetings PPML, After discussions between the author, shepherds and the AC, the text of ARIN Draft Policy 2016-9, Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers has been modified for clarity. Please reply with thoughts and feedback. They will

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Alyssa Moore
Tossing my support onto the pile for this one. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:16 PM Roberts, Orin wrote: > Agreed it's a step in the right direction. > > Specific to ISP's; I've noted Letters of Authorizations (LOA's) being > common, where one organization uses the resources of another - no change to

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Roberts, Orin
Agreed it's a step in the right direction. Specific to ISP's; I've noted Letters of Authorizations (LOA's) being common, where one organization uses the resources of another - no change to ARIN databases. Orin Roberts - CCNA,ITILv3 -Original Message- From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Chris Woodfield
Strongly support. This is a big win for enhancing whois accuracy with no substantial downsides that I can see. -C > On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:32 PM, John Springer <3jo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Greetings PPML, > > After discussions between the author, shepherds and the AC, the text of ARIN > Draft

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Scott Leibrand
Support. This proposal would make it easier to get currently-unused and/or inaccurately-registered addresses into productive use on the Internet, and/or update their registration to match the entity that is actually and legitimately using them. -Scott On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:34 PM, David Huber

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread David Huberman
Strongly support. A good direction for the users of Whois, and for proponents of common sense. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:32 PM, John Springer <3jo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Greetings PPML, > > After discussions between the author, shepherds and the AC, the text of ARIN > Dr

Re: [arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread Mike Burns
Hi John, Support. Let’s not let policy artifacts from the free-pool era contribute to Whois inaccuracy. Mike Burns From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of John Springer Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:33 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: [arin-ppml]

[arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications

2017-01-24 Thread John Springer
Greetings PPML, After discussions between the author, shepherds and the AC, the text of ARIN Draft Policy 2016-9, Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers has been modified for clarity. Please reply with thoughts and feedback. They will be very welcome. Thank you in advance. New text: Problem

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2016-7 -- Integrate community networks into Existing ISP Policy

2017-01-24 Thread David Farmer
I have not seen evidence that there is sufficient interest by the ARIN policy community to justify continued work on this policy, and therefore I'm forced to conclude it should be abandoned. However, If you are interested in seeing this policy worked on, please respond to this thread on PPML befor