Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
Correction… APNIC and RIPE already have policy to support this process with no utilization. Owen > On Aug 13, 2018, at 16:03 , Mike Burns wrote: > > > I support the policy and note that: > > The costs to implement are practically zero. > Some community members have requested this ability, w

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Mike Burns
I support the policy and note that: The costs to implement are practically zero. Some community members have requested this ability, who are we to gainsay their reasons? The changes to the NRPM are tiny and discrete. No downsides to the implementation this policy have been offered in any comment

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Aug 13, 2018, at 15:52 , Scott Leibrand wrote: > > If you operate a network with peering sessions, and you are forced to > renumber your ASN, you either need to convince all of your peers to set up > new sessions (which can be a lot of work, and usually means at least some of > them wil

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Steven Ryerse
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Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Scott Leibrand
If you operate a network with peering sessions, and you are forced to renumber your ASN, you either need to convince all of your peers to set up new sessions (which can be a lot of work, and usually means at least some of them will refuse/fail to do so), or you need to local-as prepend the old ASN

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 01:23, Larry Ash wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:47:09 -0700 > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: > >> > >> I agree with the proposal. > >> > >> I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the > alternative to t

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Larry Ash
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:47:09 -0700 Owen DeLong wrote: On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: I agree with the proposal. I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very costly and oper

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 00:48, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: > > > > I agree with the proposal. > > > > I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the > alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very > cost

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders wrote: > > I agree with the proposal. > > I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the > alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very > costly and operationally risky proposition. There is no ups

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Job Snijders
I agree with the proposal. I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering ASNs is a very costly and operationally risky proposition. There is no upside to restricting or forbidding this type of resource transfer. A

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-2 :Clarification to ISP Initial Allocation and Permit Renumbering (Language improvement)

2018-08-13 Thread Andrew Dul
The AC has recently been discussing this draft policy and noted that we have not heard from the community since this new text has been posted.  We would like to hear from you on if we should move this policy to recommended. I believe the new text fixes the discrepancy, for initial ISP alloca

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised/Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments

2018-08-13 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML
I should have waited a few extra minutes before replying ... I'm ok with this new text wording. Thanks! Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: ARIN-PPML en nombre de ARIN Fecha: lunes, 13 de agosto de 2018, 12:39 Para: Asunto: [arin-ppml] Revised/Retitled - Draft

[arin-ppml] Revised/Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments

2018-08-13 Thread ARIN
The following has been revised and retitled: * Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments Formerly: * Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments Revised text is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2018_4.html You are

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread Owen DeLong
I still feel this is a pony. A largely unnecessary solution looking for a tiny number of niche problems. Owen > On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:01, WOOD Alison * DAS wrote: > > ARIN Community: > > As we approach the next ARIN meeting, I would like to remind the community of > the proposal to allow

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments

2018-08-13 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML
Hi all, I believe the new wording is sufficiently clear. Thanks for that! Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: ARIN-PPML en nombre de ARIN Fecha: viernes, 10 de agosto de 2018, 13:48 Para: Asunto: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on IPv6

[arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

2018-08-13 Thread WOOD Alison * DAS
ARIN Community: As we approach the next ARIN meeting, I would like to remind the community of the proposal to allow inter-regional ASN transfers. I will be presenting this topic at the meeting and would love to address any comments or questions on this proposal. Please feel free to email the