Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway

2021-10-28 Thread Paul Andersen - ARIN
I do not believe that it is appropriate to discuss on PPML. But I can’t direct you to arin-discuss so I’d suggest arin-consult would be the correct forum. On the subject of arin-discuss: I believe the problem identified that the way in which people had been subscribed to that list and how often

Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway

2021-10-28 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 3:08 PM Joe Provo wrote: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:08:04PM -0700, Scott Leibrand wrote: > [snip] > > Looking forward, I believe that the process needs to be reformed to be > less > > completely opaque, and to provide mechanisms for the NomCom to provide > > feedback, to

Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway

2021-10-28 Thread Chris Woodfield
First, I invite ARIN staff or Trustees to please advise if discussion of active ASCP Suggestions is appropriate on PPML, and if not, please suggest an alternative forum for doing so. Would arin-consult@ be a more appropriate place for this discussion? Reading both of these suggestions, I agree

Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway

2021-10-28 Thread Joe Provo
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:08:04PM -0700, Scott Leibrand wrote: [snip] > Looking forward, I believe that the process needs to be reformed to be less > completely opaque, and to provide mechanisms for the NomCom to provide > feedback, to the candidates, the board, and the public, as to their reasons

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful

2021-10-28 Thread John Curran
Owen - Feel free to engage in comparisons with the number resource policy in other regions. While I believe it to be obvious, I will make the concern explicit for avoidance of any doubt: the referenced remarks went beyond discussion of comparative policy implications and rather contained "Stat

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful

2021-10-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML
How you define the border line of what can be enforced by policies and what not? The RSA already confirms that what is in the policies is mandatory. If we say the abuse-mailbox must be "usable", we can also say "how much usable" must be. If we take a look a the NRPM, it may happen that many par

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful

2021-10-28 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 12:23 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML wrote: > I don't think this is correct and it may be a language appreciation, because > I'm not native English, so how you and I understand "enforce" or similar > words may differ. Let me explain. Hi Jordi, It may be a questio

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful

2021-10-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML
Hi Bill, I don't think this is correct and it may be a language appreciation, because I'm not native English, so how you and I understand "enforce" or similar words may differ. Let me explain. For example, if we, as a community, have the power to define the policies and we decide that as part