Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback on ARIN 53 question on micro-allocations for IXPs

2024-04-19 Thread Fernando Frediani
On Fri, 19 Apr 2024, 11:54 Job Snijders via ARIN-PPML, wrote: > > I think there shouldn't be a hard rule about the space being publicly > routable or not, it is up to the individual IXP operators to decide what > technical approach is best for their stakeholder community. > Sure, but it is stil

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback on ARIN 53 question on micro-allocations for IXPs

2024-04-19 Thread Job Snijders via ARIN-PPML
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 06:44:26PM -0400, Ryan Woolley wrote: > IXPs do commonly have a desire to prevent their member LAN prefix from > being routable. The current best practice is that this prefix is > signed in RPKI with an origin ASN of zero (as described in RFC 6483), > and Community IX does

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback on ARIN 53 question on micro-allocations for IXPs

2024-04-19 Thread Ryan Woolley
Doug, The current FL-IX space was requested in September 2014 (prior to run-out.) The peering LAN /24 appears on the "Micro-allocations for Internet Exchange Points" list at https://www.arin.net/reference/research/statistics/microallocations/ The infrastructure /24 does not. Both the CIX-ATL /2

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback on ARIN 53 question on micro-allocations for IXPs

2024-04-19 Thread Tyler O'Meara via ARIN-PPML
I would consider both the non-globally routed peering LAN, as well as a /24 for globally routed administrative uses (IXManager, Looking Glass, even the IX's website) to be valid uses for 4.4 space. In my opinion, any use of IPs on the peering LAN, so long as it's used to peer on the IX, is legitim

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback on ARIN 53 question on micro-allocations for IXPs

2024-04-19 Thread Douglas Camin
Ryan – Thanks so much for surfacing this discussion on PPML. Reading through the responses from everyone, I think it’s clear there are use cases for IXPs to reasonably need a block of routable space for administrative purposes, particularly independent ones where there is no guaranteed sponsor

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback on ARIN 53 question on micro-allocations for IXPs

2024-04-19 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Apr 19, 2024, at 00:44, Ryan Woolley wrote: > At ARIN 53, John Sweeting asked for clarification from the community on > whether an internet exchange needs IP space beyond that used for the > switching fabric, and whether IP allocations made to an IXP operator may need > to be routable. Sp