Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-4: Internet Exchange Point Definition

2024-06-21 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
+1 Owen > On Jun 21, 2024, at 11:11, Tyler O'Meara via ARIN-PPML > wrote: > > I support this policy as written. > > Tyler > AS53727 > > On Fri, 2024-06-21 at 13:54 -0400, ARIN wrote: >> The following Draft Policy has been revised: >> >> * ARIN-2024-4: Internet Exchange Point Definition >>

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

2024-06-21 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> On Jun 21, 2024, at 06:18, Mike Burns via ARIN-PPML > wrote: > > Hello, > > The wait list is three years long and the justifications are two year > projections. > The waitlist is not functioning adequately unless we consider a current > needs-test to be worthless. > There is a fundament

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback Request: Policy ARIN-2024-6: 6.5.1a Definition Update

2024-06-21 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
John, I’m having trouble squaring this comment with: 2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that primarily assigns IP addresses to the users of the network services that it provides. LIRs are generally Internet Service Providers (ISPs) whose customers are pr

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback Request: Policy ARIN-2024-6: 6.5.1a Definition Update

2024-06-21 Thread Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> On Jun 20, 2024, at 10:13, Tyler O'Meara wrote: > > I agree that we should work toward replacing all instances of "ISP" with "LIR" > in the entirety of the NRPM, and then retire 6.5.1a. However, my understanding > was that for IPv4, ARIN staff considered only LIRs that have a physical > netw

Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-4: Internet Exchange Point Definition

2024-06-21 Thread Tyler O'Meara via ARIN-PPML
I support this policy as written. Tyler AS53727 On Fri, 2024-06-21 at 13:54 -0400, ARIN wrote: > The following Draft Policy has been revised: > > * ARIN-2024-4: Internet Exchange Point Definition > > Revised text is below and can be found at: > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/

[arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-4: Internet Exchange Point Definition

2024-06-21 Thread ARIN
The following Draft Policy has been revised: * ARIN-2024-4: Internet Exchange Point Definition Revised text is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_4/ You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to ass

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

2024-06-21 Thread Michael Greenup via ARIN-PPML
Greetings to the list! In my personal opinion, I believe the waitlist does three things: 1. Ensures those awaiting IPv4 allocations are aware the resource pools are exhausted. 2. Pushes the adoption of IPv6 as allocations are readily available. 3. Ensures there is a physical cost to those who dec

Re: [arin-ppml] Feedback Request: Policy ARIN-2024-6: 6.5.1a Definition Update

2024-06-21 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake John Sweeting (jsweet...@arin.net) on Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 07:11:54PM +: > Hello list, > > ARIN would like to call attention to slides 11 – 13 of the Policy > Implementation and Experience Report presented at ARIN 53 in Barbados > regarding LIR versus ISP. > > https://www.arin.n

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

2024-06-21 Thread Fernando Frediani
I always wonder where these ideas to end up with the Waiting List come from. The only place I see they coming are from those who are unwilling to *wait*. It seems many still didn't get that there aren't enough IPv4 to supply those in need and somehow believe that with the existence of the Waiti

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2023-8 - Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

2024-06-21 Thread Mike Burns via ARIN-PPML
Hello, The wait list is three years long and the justifications are two year projections. The waitlist is not functioning adequately unless we consider a current needs-test to be worthless. There is a fundamental issue with needs-testing here. Does it matter if the needs-tests are accur