Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/3/14, 16:05, Derek Calanchini wrote: I can justify 1024 Ip's very easily, but I can't justify 2048 or certainly not 4096. Were I multi-homed, I could get the 1024 IP's...to me this doesn't make a lot of sense. It's far less likely for a small organization to be multi-homed, yet the policy

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Owen DeLong
ally going to save the remaining ipv4 pool to stop small organizations >>> from getting a /24? When do we stop rearranging deck chairs on the ipv4 >>> Titanic that can't be saved? >>> >>> Steven Ryerse >>> President >>> 100 Ashford Cen

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Jason Schiller
that it is OK to discriminate based on an Organizations size. > >> > >> ARIN 2014-18 is a reasonable attempt to rectify that and I would ask > for this communities support. As the Minimum was just reduced to a /24, it > is really going to save the remaining ipv4 pool to s

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Derek Calanchini
[mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Gary Buhrmaster Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:59 PM To: ARIN Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, ARIN wrote:

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
omplex Networks℠ -Original Message- From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:12 PM To: Steven Ryerse Cc: ARIN; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments Steven, You are properl

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/3/14, 12:46, Steven Ryerse wrote: Why is it I keep seeing comments from various folks in this community dismissing small organizations? I would ask you or anyone else to show me where it says in ARINs Mission and founding documents that ARIN and this Community is not supposed to also ser

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Owen DeLong
Inc. > Conquering Complex Networks℠ > > -----Original Message- > From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:05 PM > To: Steven Ryerse > Cc: Gary Buhrmaster; ARIN; arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml]

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
, Inc.     Conquering Complex Networks℠ -Original Message- From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:30 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-20

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
2014 1:05 PM To: Steven Ryerse Cc: Gary Buhrmaster; ARIN; arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments Steven, many of your statements are patently false. First of all, the current allocation/assignment process is fair. Everyon

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
. Conquering Complex Networks℠ From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:26 PM To: Christoph Blecker Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments On 14-07-24 08:35 AM, Christoph Blecker wrote: > Where this is in conflict with any other Section in the Policy Manual, > this Section shall be controlling.” Could it be this line t

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
Kargel Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote: > I want one! > Kevin me too, and a pony please! Opposed for the reasons that Gary has given. -- Cheers,

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Owen DeLong
ehalf Of Gary Buhrmaster > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:59 PM > To: ARIN > Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying > MinimumAllocations and Assignments > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, ARIN wrote: >> On 17 July 2

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments I support the proposal. How else are we going to get rid of the more than 1,000 /24s left as the dregs of decades of allocations? It will take a long time to dole out one /24 every

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
PM To: ARIN Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net List Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments Opposed, as I do not see the need to justify 200 addresses as enough of a burden to outweigh the benefits of not giving out /24s like candy to those who c

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments

2014-09-03 Thread Steven Ryerse
Gary Buhrmaster Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:59 PM To: ARIN Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying MinimumAllocations and Assignments On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, ARIN wrote: > On 17 July 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC)