Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

in-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>" <arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments Can ARIN staff please comment? If an ISP give out a mix of /48 and /56 which of the following is tr

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Can ARIN staff please comment? If an ISP give out a mix of /48 and /56 which of the following is true: A. each unique customer end site given a /56 counts as a single /56 at 100% utilized and each unique customer end site given a /48 counts as 256 /56s at 100% utilized B. each unique

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

This is all getting complex, confusing, and is still encouraging ISPs to give out less than the recommended /48 to end users. Why don't we just change policy so that every ISP gets an automatic IPv6 that approximates /32 IPv4 ~= /48 IPv6 Make it automatic, and at no additional cost. Also,

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

I'd support such an automatic allocation. I'd support it even more if it was made available to legacy holders. Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) > On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > > > This is all getting complex, confusing, and is still

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Every thing is already available to legacy holders if it is available to the rest of the community. However, for any new resources, they will have to sign an RSA and their new resources will not be legacy. Owen > On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > > I'd

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

That is not necessarily true of the hypothetical automatic assignment discussed below Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) > On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > Every thing is already available to legacy holders if it is available to the > rest of the

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Sure it is… There is nothing in ARIN policy ever that has made a distinction about legacy holders or somehow excluded them from participating in or receiving any benefit of any ARIN policy if they sign an RSA for their new resources. Owen > On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Matthew Kaufman

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Owen, >> You left out the part where you have to justify issuing that many /56s to >> each of those large customers. I believe if an ISP gives N number of /64s to a single end-site transit customer, so long a N < 65537 it is justified under ARIN policy. So for an ISP that assigns a mix of /48

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Jason Schiller wrote: > > Owen, > >>> You left out the part where you have to justify issuing that many /56s to >>> each of those large customers. > > I believe if an ISP gives N number of /64s to a single end-site > transit customer, so

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Jason Schiller wrote: >> >> Owen, >> You left out the part where you have to justify issuing that many /56s to each of those large customers. >> >> I believe if

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Jason Schiller wrote: > > I'm not sure I follow the impact of the change here. > > Under current policy if an ISP assigns only /48s to each customer, then I > count the number of customer and consider than many /48s as fully utilized. > >

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Thanks, Matt This is precisely the subject on which I hoped to get community feedback. John Springer On Sat, 26 Sep 2015, Matthew Petach wrote: OPPOSED How I subdivide and allocate addresses internally and downstream is not a matter for the community to vote on; that's between me and my

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

m/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > From: "ARIN" <i...@arin.net> > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:54:13 PM > Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments >

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

I do not think this policy is unsound or unfair, however I do not believe it will have the intended effect. Network Operators should have the ability to subnet their address blocks as they see fit without being penalized when they come back for more addresses. It seems that as long as the

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

ange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "ARIN" <i...@arin.net> To: arin-ppml@arin.net Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:54:13 PM Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10 Minimum IPv6 Assignme

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 15:41 , John Springer wrote: > > Hi Owen, > > On Thu, 24 Sep 2015, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> >>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:37 , John Springer wrote: >>> >>> And if you have an opinion of no, are you able to say because it is

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Hi PPML, There have been a number of public discussions regarding the ins and outs of IPV6 subnet allocation. One such starts here: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2014-October/070339.html My recollection of the outcomes of these discussions is a sort of rough consensus that /48 is

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Hi Owen, On Thu, 24 Sep 2015, Owen DeLong wrote: On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:37 , John Springer wrote: And if you have an opinion of no, are you able to say because it is technically unsound or unfair and partial? This isn?t really necessary, John. A proposal must be

[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10: Minimum IPv6 Assignments

Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10 Minimum IPv6 Assignments On 17 September 2015 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-224 Minimum IPv6 Assignments" as a Draft Policy. Draft Policy ARIN-2015-10 is below and can be found at: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2015_10.html You are