Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-24 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 05:53 , Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: > >> On Jun 23, 2015, at 19:34 , Martin Hannigan > > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Richard Jimmerson

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-24 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2015, at 19:34 , Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Richard Jimmerson > wrote: > >> Hello Adam, >> >> Thank you for submitting these questions about fraud reporting. >> >> We have found the fraud

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Brian Jones
+1 Owen's remarks. There’s another possibility which seems entirely likely to me. Of 146 fraud reports, 2% cover legitimate fraud. Most fraud likely goes unreported. As noted by ARIN staff earlier in this conversation, the vast majority of fraud reports they receive are out of scope… General IS

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 19:34 , Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Richard Jimmerson > wrote: > Hello Adam, > > Thank you for submitting these questions about fraud reporting. > > We have found the fraud reporting system to be very helpf

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Richard Jimmerson wrote: > Hello Adam, > > Thank you for submitting these questions about fraud reporting. > > We have found the fraud reporting system to be very helpful over the > past few years. We receive many different types of fraud reports through > this

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread ggiesen+arin-ppml
I suspect that would be a legal nightmare. GTG -Original Message- From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf Of Michael Peddemors Sent: June-23-15 9:04 PM To: arin-ppml@arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question On 15-06-23 02:11 PM

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 15-06-23 02:11 PM, Richard Jimmerson wrote: If you have submitted a report in the last fourteen days, you should hear back from us shortly. You are also welcome to contact us via our telephone help-desk for status information. 3) why can't I submit a fraud report if I'm logged in to ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 14:11 , Richard Jimmerson wrote: > > Hello Adam, > > Thank you for submitting these questions about fraud reporting. > > We have found the fraud reporting system to be very helpful over the past few > years. We receive many different types of fraud reports through this

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Richard Jimmerson
Hello Adam, Thank you for submitting these questions about fraud reporting. We have found the fraud reporting system to be very helpful over the past few years. We receive many different types of fraud reports through this system. Some of them have helped ARIN begin investigations that have res

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Adam Thompson
Funny :-) I was talking about fraud reports, not messages posted here. Anecdotally, I know of several people (now including me) who've submitted fraud reports and never heard anything back. At least someone at ARIN has a sense of humor. (At least, I prefer that interpretation to the other p

Re: [arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Nate Davis
This is probably not the right place to ask, but I'm unsure where to best ask. And at least it's somewhat relevant given recent talk of large actors in the CNNIC area gaming ARIN... 1) when someone submits a fraud report to ARIN, how are they supposed to communicate additional information on tha

[arin-ppml] Fraud reporting question

2015-06-23 Thread Adam Thompson
This is probably not the right place to ask, but I'm unsure where to best ask. And at least it's somewhat relevant given recent talk of large actors in the CNNIC area gaming ARIN... 1) when someone submits a fraud report to ARIN, how are they supposed to communicate additional information on tha