Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-05 Thread Michel Py
> Jeffrey Lyon wrote : > It is easy to obtain small allocations from ARIN (for now) but quite > difficult to find contiguous space in the much shorter prefixes. > These are the ones that would have market value. You'll have to adapt, the million prefixes routing table is coming. Not everyone is un

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-05 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Michel, >From your explanation, we do not disagree at all :). It is easy to obtain small allocations from ARIN (for now) but quite difficult to find contiguous space in the much shorter prefixes. These are the ones that would have market value. I've requested several /21's and /22's from ARIN. Thi

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-04 Thread Michel Py
Jeff, > Jeffrey Lyon wrote : > I personally disagree that smaller assignments have market value. We don't disagree much. Put it in context: it was a large scale production talk where a /20 is a toy, and the point I was trying to make then is that there is not much of a speculation market. For th

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-04 Thread Paul WALL
Customers. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: > Money comes from somewhere, right? > On Mar 4, 2014 10:56 PM, "Martin Hannigan" > > > wrote: > >> What does private equity and M&A have to do with longer or shorter prefix >> value? >> >> There's a market for all lengths/sizes. Clearly

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-04 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Money comes from somewhere, right? On Mar 4, 2014 10:56 PM, "Martin Hannigan" wrote: > What does private equity and M&A have to do with longer or shorter prefix > value? > > There's a market for all lengths/sizes. Clearly, the Hilco data > demonstrates that. The "value" is higher for smaller (and

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
What does private equity and M&A have to do with longer or shorter prefix value? There's a market for all lengths/sizes. Clearly, the Hilco data demonstrates that. The "value" is higher for smaller (and larger to some extent) prefixes because of the overhead and abundance of unpredictable risk dea

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-03 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Michel, I personally disagree that smaller assignments have market value. As the prefixes get shorter, the aftermarket appeal is likely much higher. (note: I do have some experience in this space in working with private equity on M&A proposals for our company). Thanks, Jeff On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 a

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-03 Thread Michel Py
> Martin Hannigan wrote : > It would be more credible if the actual block was > published, but this is interesting regardless. > http://www.ipv4auctions.com/ About 6 weeks ago, I came up with the following: ++---++---+ ! Prefix ! #IPs ! Per IP ! Cost ! ++---+

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-03 Thread John Curran
On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > It would be more credible if the actual block was published, but this > is interesting regardless. > > http://www.ipv4auctions.com/ Marty - Thanks for pointing out that information! While it may not be possible to correlate any given tran

[arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-03 Thread Martin Hannigan
FYI It would be more credible if the actual block was published, but this is interesting regardless. http://www.ipv4auctions.com/ Best, -M< ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN