Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread peter kotvan
Hi, I should work on kernel rpm for my bachelor thesis. I plan to get dreamplug and make kernel rpm for kirkwood processors. After that i can work on other devices. Peter On 29 March 2011 21:26, wrote: > > Quoting Gordan Bobic : > > > omall...@msu.edu wrote: > >> Quoting Gordan Bobic : > >> >

[fedora-arm] Hardware page [was: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Matthew Wilson
On 29 March 2011 07:15, Jon Masters wrote: > On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: >> It's probably worth gathering some data on h/w and experiences as the >> beta progresses.  Any objections to my creating a wiki page to track >> and summarise this? > > That sounds like a great

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread omalleys
Quoting Gordan Bobic : > omall...@msu.edu wrote: >> Quoting Gordan Bobic : >> >>> It'd have to be more finely grained than sub-architecture since a kernel >>> for one target won't necessarily work on other CPU of the same >>> sub-architecture (e.g. a Kirkwood kernel won't work on all ARMv5 >>> pro

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 12:03 -0400, omall...@msu.edu wrote: > Quoting Gordan Bobic : > > > It'd have to be more finely grained than sub-architecture since a kernel > > for one target won't necessarily work on other CPU of the same > > sub-architecture (e.g. a Kirkwood kernel won't work on all ARMv5

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Tyler
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: > Gordan Bobic writes: > > > Jon Masters wrote: > >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> > >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). > >> > >> FWI

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Gordan Bobic
omall...@msu.edu wrote: > Quoting Gordan Bobic : > >> It'd have to be more finely grained than sub-architecture since a kernel >> for one target won't necessarily work on other CPU of the same >> sub-architecture (e.g. a Kirkwood kernel won't work on all ARMv5 >> processors). > > Is there a way a

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread omalleys
Quoting Gordan Bobic : > It'd have to be more finely grained than sub-architecture since a kernel > for one target won't necessarily work on other CPU of the same > sub-architecture (e.g. a Kirkwood kernel won't work on all ARMv5 > processors). Is there a way around this? I mean like being able t

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Gordan Bobic
It'd have to be more finely grained than sub-architecture since a kernel for one target won't necessarily work on other CPU of the same sub-architecture (e.g. a Kirkwood kernel won't work on all ARMv5 processors). I am still assuming the split is going to be between softfp and hardfp (ABI), ra

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Jon
So is the idea is to have kernel rpm for each sub-architecture. ARMv5, ARMv7, ARMv9? What about the user-land? Would we keep seperate repos to have optimized bits for v7/9? On Mar 29, 2011 9:49 AM, "Gordan Bobic" wrote: > Derek Atkins wrote: >> Jon Masters writes: >> >>> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 2

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Rich Mattes
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > > > 3. Some kernel build strategy. > > There are a couple of us looking into this at the moment. The thinking > (thus far, only really started pondering recently) goes that we need a >

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Gordan Bobic
Jon Masters wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: >> Gordan Bobic writes: >> >>> Jon Masters wrote: On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > (where appropriate to the

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: > Gordan Bobic writes: > > > Jon Masters wrote: > >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> > >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out > >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). > >> > >> FWI

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Gordan Bobic
Derek Atkins wrote: > Jon Masters writes: > >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: >> >>> 3. Some kernel build strategy. >> There are a couple of us looking into this at the moment. The thinking >> (thus far, only really started pondering recently) goes that we need a >> kern

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Derek Atkins
Gordan Bobic writes: > Jon Masters wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: >> >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out >>> (where appropriate to the h/w). >> >> FWIW, I think (eventually), moving to an ARMv7 base has a lot of >> benefit,

Re: [fedora-arm] kernels [WAS: Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2]

2011-03-29 Thread Derek Atkins
Jon Masters writes: > On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> 3. Some kernel build strategy. > > There are a couple of us looking into this at the moment. The thinking > (thus far, only really started pondering recently) goes that we need a > kernel RPM but using the F13 ker

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

2011-03-29 Thread Gordan Bobic
Jon Masters wrote: > On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +, Matthew Wilson wrote: > >> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out >> (where appropriate to the h/w). > > FWIW, I think (eventually), moving to an ARMv7 base has a lot of > benefit, with not a (lot) of drawback. A