Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 11/04/2015 01:13 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: The problem is ARM and partners aren't delivering what was expected (promised?). I recall a presentation from a Red Hat employee where ARM had agreed that aarch64 needed a standard boot process so this craziness of needing custom boot software for

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 05:13:58 +, you wrote: >On Tue, 2015-11-03 at 17:38 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> Fedora 23 for aarch64 released > >At the risk of incurring your wrath.. You should be complaining to ARM and their partners. >If I understand this correctly, the two "supported"

[fedora-arm] arm rawhide report: 20151105 changes

2015-11-04 Thread arm Fedora Rawhide Report
- * Tue Nov 03 2015 John W. Linville <linvi...@redhat.com> - 3.18_2015.10.22-1 - Update wireless-regdb to version 2015.10.22 - Fix some whitespace damage in spec file Size change: 740 bytes crypto-policies-20151104-1.gitf1cba5f.fc24 -- * Wed

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 02:11:03PM +, Clive Messer wrote: > ... just trying to make a point, that I do not understand the concept > of a community based distribution being released, only officially > supporting big $, business class, enterprise solutions, rather > than the consumer level

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Clive Messer wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-04 at 09:44 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> Yet you com in very confrontational about it, > > I am sorry if you see it that way. Blunt and to the point, yes, but I > wasn't trying to be

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2015 02:11 PM, Clive Messer wrote: > I do not understand the concept of a community based distribution being > released, only officially supporting big $, business class, > enterprise solutions, rather than the consumer level boards which are > already available. There's quite a

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2015 02:47 PM, Clive Messer wrote: > Maybe it is time, at least for ARM platform, to look at "softening" the > "has to be upstream first" policy. This is hurting Fedora to the point > of making it irrelevant on ARM. You either are supporting the popular > consumer hardware that people are

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Clive Messer
On Wed, 2015-11-04 at 08:04 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > for Fedora to support > systems > they need to get support for their hardware upstream. Maybe it is time, at least for ARM platform, to look at "softening" the "has to be upstream first" policy. This is hurting Fedora to the point of

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Clive Messer
On Wed, 2015-11-04 at 09:44 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > Yet you com in very confrontational about it,  I am sorry if you see it that way. Blunt and to the point, yes, but I wasn't trying to be confrontational, just trying to make a point, that I do not understand the concept of a community

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Clive Messer
On Wed, 2015-11-04 at 10:13 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > Your email seem to imply that the community somehow excludes > enterprise level contributors.   Eh, I never said that, nor did I mean to imply it! > You might not have > intended it to imply that, but it's the message those enterprise >

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Clive Messer [04/11/2015 14:11] : > > I do not understand the concept of a community based distribution being > released, only officially supporting big $, business class, > enterprise solutions, rather than the consumer level boards which are > already available. This is a false dilemma.

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 23 for aarch64 is here!

2015-11-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Clive Messer wrote: > On Tue, 2015-11-03 at 17:38 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> Fedora 23 for aarch64 released > > At the risk of incurring your wrath.. > > If I understand this correctly, the two "supported" platforms are > > a)