folks, hi,
i'm contacting people on all of the ARM linux distribution lists to
find out if anyone is interested in bringing about the creation of a
decent, useful and useable ARM-based Laptop. i've been researching
CPUs and how to go about this with a minimum of risk and cost,
learning from the e
Just to clarify a few things on the i.MX51 and Efika MX in particular here.
Display support
-
The i.MX51 can support high resolutions under certain circumstances:
this assumes you are not going to be running any video decoding or
using the YUV overlay support, as this tends to
On 31/01/2011 21:51, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> folks, hi,
>
> i'm contacting people on all of the ARM linux distribution lists to
> find out if anyone is interested in bringing about the creation of a
> decent, useful and useable ARM-based Laptop. i've been researching
> CPUs and how t
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>> with 1024x600 screens (the toshiba AC100, the Genesi-USA Ekiga and the
>> AlwaysInnovating Touchbook) - i wish them every success in their niche
>> markets that are catered for by 1024x600 screens.
>
> Genesi Efika MX can take a 1280x720 sc
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>
>>> with 1024x600 screens (the toshiba AC100, the Genesi-USA Ekiga and the
>>> AlwaysInnovating Touchbook) - i wish them every success in their niche
>>> markets that are catered for by 1024x600 screens.
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> I suspect (it's just a guess, but an educated one) the panel they use is an
> AUO (AU Optronics) B156HW01 or B156HW02. There are almost certainly several
> interchangeable variants of each, with possibly slightly different LVDS plug
> location
Hi Luke, this is Bill Buck writing you. I am the CEO of Genesi and
subscribed to this mailing list. While I have had some contact with Gordon,
I have never discussed any of these matters with you. I am certain you are
not aware of our detailed plans or how your ambitions can be accommodated as
we m
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Bill Buck wrote:
> Hi Luke, this is Bill Buck writing you. I am the CEO of Genesi and
> subscribed to this mailing list.
bill - great to hear from you.
> While I have had some contact with Gordon,
> I have never discussed any of these matters with you.
no - ahh
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
[B156HW01: good]
[OMAP4 export restrictions]
>>> now i _have_ been advised of another two CPUs - one is the nusmart
>>> 2816 and the other is the ziilabs ZMS-08. the nice thing about the
>>> ZMS-08 is that it is *already* available in a "system-on-module"
>>>
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> OK, now I'm _seriously_ wondering why you don't just get an Efika MX and
> drop a 1280x720 screen into it. That sounds like it'll cover just about all
> of your requirements: Cortex A8, 1280x720 display. Only 512MB of RAM, but
> that's the onl
On 02/01/2011 06:17 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
I don't see anything about a cell vector processor listed in the spec.
>>>
>>> no - and the reason for that is precisely because they DO NOT want
>>> people ringing up even _asking_ for "free" support as they believe it
>>> is a to
01.02.2011, 05:51, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
> http://lkcl.net/laptop.html
01.02.2011, 21:33, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
> but, yeah, the aim is to fulfil the largest number of peoples' needs
> first (weight of numbers) and then branch out from there.
Hi, Luke.
Thank you for the pr
2011/2/2 Misha Shnurapet :
> 01.02.2011, 05:51, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
>> http://lkcl.net/laptop.html
>
> 01.02.2011, 21:33, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
>> but, yeah, the aim is to fulfil the largest number of peoples' needs
>> first (weight of numbers) and then branch out from ther
Matt Sealey wrote:
>> Thank you for the proposal and none the less interesting discussion. It's
>> people like you who actually "get us there" at end, and it's good to know
>> that possible ways are being searched for.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I'm not a hardware hacker. But, as a consumer, I'd say th
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> The way forward here would be a SATA port. Anything else doesn't cut it in
> terms of performance, and even on something as low on CPU as an 800MHz A8
> still suffers significant slow-down when working off SD cards. This has a
> massive effec
Matt Sealey wrote:
> Just to clarify a few things on the i.MX51 and Efika MX in particular here.
>
> Display support
> -
>
> The i.MX51 can support high resolutions under certain circumstances:
> this assumes you are not going to be running any video decoding or
> using the YU
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>
>> The way forward here would be a SATA port. Anything else doesn't cut it in
>> terms of performance, and even on something as low on CPU as an 800MHz A8
>> still suffers significant slow-down when worki
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>> ARM CPUs don't have the concept of a BIOS, so the screen timings are
>> hard-coded into the kernel driver. you *can't* just whop a new screen
>> in and expect it to work, you *have* to recompile the kernel,
>> hard-coding the hsync, vsync, o
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>>> ARM CPUs don't have the concept of a BIOS, so the screen timings are
>>> hard-coded into the kernel driver. you *can't* just whop a new screen
>>> in and expect it to wo
2011/2/2 Misha Shnurapet :
> 01.02.2011, 05:51, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
>> http://lkcl.net/laptop.html
>
> 01.02.2011, 21:33, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
>> but, yeah, the aim is to fulfil the largest number of peoples' needs
>> first (weight of numbers) and then branch out from ther
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> Can you
>> point me at the relevant bit of the kernel code?
>
> aw gawd come on, gordan :)
The point I was getting at is that the Tegra FB driver doesn't do this
at all. It's very minimalistic.
>> If you're right, then a
>> 720p panel may not be implausi
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
>>> Can you
>>> point me at the relevant bit of the kernel code?
>>
>> aw gawd come on, gordan :)
>
> The point I was getting at is that the Tegra FB driver doesn't do this at
> all. It's very minimalistic
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I'm not a hardware hacker. But, as a consumer, I'd say that a
>> "1gb NAND Flash" is quite a bit below the level. I also wouldn't care much
>> about a 1280x720 screen if the hardware wouldn't be capable of playing the
>> video flawlessly. Or
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
>>> Unfortunately, I'm not a hardware hacker. But, as a consumer, I'd say that
>>> a "1gb NAND Flash" is quite a bit below the level. I also wouldn't care
>>> much about a 1280x720 screen if the hardware
2011/2/2 Matt Sealey
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> This is exactly where you will get if you're trying to massage the
> Tegra2, MX53, OMAP4 into a high end laptop; it will not meet your
> expectations. They are not designed for those environments. Tegra and
> OMAP4 are
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
>>> Unfortunately, I'm not a hardware hacker. But, as a consumer, I'd say
>>> that a "1gb NAND Flash" is quite a bit below the level. I also wouldn't care
>>> much about a 1280x720 screen if the hardware wo
Matt Sealey wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm not a hardware hacker. But, as a consumer, I'd say that
a "1gb NAND Flash" is quite a bit below the level. I also wouldn't care
much about a 1280x720 screen if the hardware wouldn't be capable of
playing the video flawlessly. Or, if there
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> I'm glad we agree on anything other than SATA being unworkable. :)
>
> weell, i'm covering all the angles. genesyslogic's ICs are about $1
> - $1.50 even in small volumes so it's not as if it'll break the bank
> by putting one on the motherboard, in the ca
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> > gordon is right about the SD/MMC card thing, but the "level 10" ones
> > can at least guarantee above 10mbytes/sec *read* capability. so
> > _yes_ to the SATA interface.
>
> The 10MB/s is _supposed_ to be for worst-case sequential writes. There
> is
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>
>
> it's very interesting that it's been the U.S. companies whose
> attitude has been "your product will fail, therefore we do not
Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>
>>> gordon is right about the SD/MMC card thing, but the "level 10" ones
>>> can at least guarantee above 10mbytes/sec *read* capability. so
>>> _yes_ to the SATA interface.
>> The 10MB/s is _supposed_ to be for worst-case sequent
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 06:01, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> Matt Sealey wrote:
>> Just to clarify a few things on the i.MX51 and Efika MX in particular here.
>>
>
>> Memory
>> ---
>>
>> 512MB is the maximum on the i.MX51 but the i.MX53 can support 2GB.
>> Most vendors are going to ship 1GB units
Quoting Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
> 2011/2/2 Misha Shnurapet :
>> 01.02.2011, 05:51, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
>>> http://lkcl.net/laptop.html
>>
>> 01.02.2011, 21:33, "Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton" :
>>> but, yeah, the aim is to fulfil the largest number of peoples' needs
>>> first (
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 10:14 -0500, omall...@msu.edu wrote:
> couple it with the A15 quad's
I think A15 Quads are quite a ways off -- I've heard it said a numbher
of times that when ARM announces something, they're talking about
designs (which their partners then build), unlike AMD or Intel who mak
Quoting Chris Tyler :
> On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 10:14 -0500, omall...@msu.edu wrote:
>> couple it with the A15 quad's
>
> I think A15 Quads are quite a ways off -- I've heard it said a numbher
> of times that when ARM announces something, they're talking about
> designs (which their partners then bu
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