Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Bill Kontos wrote: > I got to be honest here, running out of funds in a crowdfunding > campaign and looking to make it up via bitcoin does not make me feel > very confident. luckily,

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Hrvoje Lasic wrote: > when you google genesis, one of first thing it pops up is scam alert. It is > well known fact. i have a friend who signed up for them a while ago... it's not. rem

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:33 PM, zap wrote: > Are the shakti processors arm based HELL no!!! why do you think they tried to bribe him to shut the project down!! oops did i mention that on a public mailing list? mwahahaa > for the architecture or some new > architecture or a different one.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Bill Kontos wrote: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> so, ahh i would say it's christmas come early but it really *is* christmas :) > >> unlike many people to whom i've pitched the idea of an entirely libre >> SoC, madhu i

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Wes Frazier
On 12/28/17 15:07, Mike Henry wrote: I know you are in a desperate situation with lots of pressure, but if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. I mostly just lurk on this mailing list, im a backer on the crowdsupply campaign. I am not an expert on bitcoin or any concurrency. I just

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Bill Kontos
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ok so the past couple of updates i sent out i mentioned that there's > no longer sufficient funds in the current campaign to further pay > accommodation or any other living expenses. thus it is *really > important* that i fin

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-28 Thread Bill Kontos
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:33 AM, zap wrote: > Are the shakti processors arm based for the architecture or some new > architecture or a different one. They are risc-v based ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-28 Thread zap
MY Bad, I sent two of these by mistake. I meant to send one to Luke exclusively... as well On 12/28/2017 05:33 PM, zap wrote: > Are the shakti processors arm based for the architecture or some new > architecture or a different one. > > I believe you said the M class is supposed to be less than 1W

[Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-28 Thread zap
Are the shakti processors arm based for the architecture or some new architecture or a different one. I believe you said the M class is supposed to be less than 1W. Which sounds absolutely insane. Dunno how they will do that, but it looks interesting especially considering the blazing speed it say

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-28 Thread Bill Kontos
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > so, ahh i would say it's christmas come early but it really *is* christmas :) > unlike many people to whom i've pitched the idea of an entirely libre > SoC, madhu instead responded, "ok sure, what would you like?". > initiall

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Mike Henry
Luke, I know you are a really smart guy. If this group has such a great mining set up, why do they need people to join and give them money? The math of this doesn't make any sense. They could use profits from mining to buy more equipment, they shouldn't need people to give them money, then have th

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Sam Huntress
GNU Taler is a fundamentally different system than Bitcoin. Unless I misunderstand the information on their website. GNU Taler appears to be a third party; analogous to a credit card company or a bank. GNU Taler could manage and secure your cash (or bitcoin) for you and be trusted to ensure that t

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
On December 28, 2017 12:17:14 PM EST, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: >Interesting, I haven't heard of GNU Taler. But please excuse my >ignorance: Reading the official website doesn't help me understand >exactly what it is. Can you explain (or link to a good explanation)? > >On 28/12/17 17:11, Julie Marc

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Hrvoje Lasic
On 28 December 2017 at 17:54, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Sam Huntress > wrote: > >>would it not be worthwhile, do you think, to leverage > > *this* opportunity > > > >

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Interesting, I haven't heard of GNU Taler. But please excuse my ignorance: Reading the official website doesn't help me understand exactly what it is. Can you explain (or link to a good explanation)? On 28/12/17 17:11, Julie Marchant wrote: gnu taler seems sufficient to me. We don't need crypt

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Julie Marchant
gnu taler seems sufficient to me. We don't need crypto currency, a way to anonymously and securely transfer actual money should do just fine. -- Julie Marchant https://onpon4.github.io On Dec 28, 2017 11:32 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Sam Huntres

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Sam Huntress wrote: >>would it not be worthwhile, do you think, to leverage > *this* opportunity > > The problem is that '*this* opportunity' absolutely screams pyramid scheme > and shoul

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Sam Huntress
>would it not be worthwhile, do you think, to leverage *this* opportunity The problem is that '*this* opportunity' absolutely screams pyramid scheme and should not be trusted without solid verification that the operators of this mining pool are making the investments they claim to be making. On T

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Sam Huntress wrote: > Currently Bitcoin is an insane gold-rush bubble that is frivolous and > wasteful but it has the potential to balance out into the secure, > distributed, democratized digital currency it was designed to be and I > think that is something worth

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Sam Huntress
Currently Bitcoin is an insane gold-rush bubble that is frivolous and wasteful but it has the potential to balance out into the secure, distributed, democratized digital currency it was designed to be and I think that is something worth spending energy on. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Julie Ma

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Julie Marchant
Ugh, did it again. Sorry. On 2017年12月28日 04:13, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > it's > too close to the exploitation i've witnessed - and my friend has > recently uncovered clear and blatant evidence of. mining however is > *completely* different, not least because it, in no way, *actually*

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Sam Huntress wrote: >> if people published their private wallet addresses then yes. > No. The entire point of public/private key pairs is that you can prove you > own the pair without rev

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Sam Huntress
> if people published their private wallet addresses then yes. No. The entire point of public/private key pairs is that you can prove you own the pair without revealing the private key. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/58792/proof-of-address-ownership We can use the bitcoin ledger (bloc

Re: [Arm-netbook] HDMI High-Frequency Layout: Recommendations--Taper

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
ok so this, richard, is the point i was talking about, yellow arrow. the purple area was formerly too far to the left, leaving a very weird shape that i wasn't happy with. all good. ok i'll move on to checking the ground planes and power planes. PADS has this annoying habit of, when you join up

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Jean Flamelle wrote: > All in all, this type of speculation rewards gambling and malicious > mass misinformation campaigns and I would not support it by > participating. thank you, jean, for a really informative and insightful discourse. your arguments are preci

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Philip Hands wrote: > On Wed, 27 Dec 2017, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ... >> (3) this is quite LITERALLY the opposite of a ponzi scheme. they are >> LITERALLY making the bitcoin that underpins the entire scheme. this >> is a completely unique approac

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Jean Flamelle
Bitcoin is hyper-deflated due to over speculation. With 16.7 million bitcoin across 21 million wallets lets say averaging 1.2 wallets per person meaning very roughly ~17.5 million wallets within a deviation of that statistic probably close to +/- 2.5 million, leaves between 1.114 btc and 0.835 btc

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 27 Dec 2017, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: ... > (3) this is quite LITERALLY the opposite of a ponzi scheme. they are > LITERALLY making the bitcoin that underpins the entire scheme. this > is a completely unique approach which is actually extremely clever. It seems to me that on

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-28 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Julie Marchant wrote: > Sent this from the wrong email address. Please excuse the duplicate > email. Luke: if the other email is in the moderation queue, feel free to > just reject it, si