Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
ight, i've got enough information from the payouts and commissions to be able to reverse-engineer their operation with a reasonable degree of confidence. key mistake: i initially *misinterpreted* the MLM commissions structure as paying out $200/day *guaranteed*. what they *actually* do is, fo

Re: [Arm-netbook] Ethics, eco-conscious, and treating your backers with respect

2017-12-29 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2017-12-29 14:53 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 [...] On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Julie Marchant wrote: Ugh, did it again. Sorry. On 2017年12月28日 04:13, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: it's too close to the ex

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Alexander Ross
On 29/12/17 16:14, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > oh! alexander. yeah. you! i'm happy to pay your membership, you've > been extraordinarily helpful and persistent :) oh thx. I’ll pm ya. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcom

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:57 PM, zap wrote: >>> Wow... that's freakin awesome. Any idea when such a processor will be >>> implemented into the eoma68 standard? >> if standard chip design is anything to go by... probably 18 months. > I wonder how long it has been being developed though so far.

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-29 Thread zap
>>> power budget is 2.5 watts and madhu laughed: do the math, you can get >>> 16 SMP cores into 2.5 watts :) >> Wow... that's freakin awesome. Any idea when such a processor will be >> implemented into the eoma68 standard? > if standard chip design is anything to go by... probably 18 months. I w

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:28 PM, zap wrote: > Risc-V hmm... interesting. I know arm is based off of a Risc chip so > that's why I wondered... yehyeh. no RISC just means "reduced instruction set". like "drink" can d

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Joseph Lira wrote: > Luke just a little confused, are you saying if im from the > first batch i wont get an eoma68 this June/July 2018? eoma68 is a standard, you can see it on elinux.org :) you mean a physical item, in this case an eoma68-a20 computer card, ans

Re: [Arm-netbook] open risc v question:

2017-12-29 Thread zap
On 12/29/2017 12:53 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:33 PM, zap wrote: >> Are the shakti processors arm based > HELL no!!! why do you think they tried to bribe him to shut the > project down!! oops did i mention that on a public mailing list? > mwahahaa Int

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Joseph Lira
Luke just a little confused, are you saying if im from the first batch i wont get an eoma68 this June/July 2018? From: arm-netbook on behalf of arm-netbook-requ...@lists.phcomp.co.uk Sent: December 29, 2017 4:13:18 PM To: arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Subject:

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Sam Huntress wrote: >> you mean, starting e.g. from here: >> https://bitclubpool.com/index.php?p=stats >> and here: >> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/bitclubnetwork > > Yes, exac

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
oh! alexander. yeah. you! i'm happy to pay your membership, you've been extraordinarily helpful and persistent :) l. --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Alexander Ross wrote: > After recently learning how bitcoin n

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Sam Huntress
> you mean, starting e.g. from here: > https://bitclubpool.com/index.php?p=stats > and here: > https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/bitclubnetwork Yes, exactly. The blocks they are mining are being awarded to https://blockchain.info/address/155fzsEBHy9Ri2bMQ8uuuR3tv1YzcDywd4 And blockchain.inf

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Alexander Ross
After recently learning how bitcoin network fees and shot up to £70 min! I asked for alts and was recommended to use dash. https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20171227.034339.c3c3053f.en.html ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:21 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > 2017-12-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : >> >> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:25 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> 3D. Wasn't there a PoC

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > 2017-12-29 16:21 GMT+01:00 mike.v...@gmail.com : >> 2017-12-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:25 PM, mike.v.

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Sam Huntress wrote: > We all seem to be talking past each other and I fear we may have some > confusion about what a ponzi scheme actually is. > > In a ponzi scheme, money is taken from '

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Julie Marchant wrote: > I'm not familiar with the terms "first batch" and "second batch" as it > pertains to this project. Which was the first and which was the second? the first batch

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-29 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2017-12-29 16:21 GMT+01:00 mike.v...@gmail.com : > 2017-12-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : >> >> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:25 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> 3D. Wasn't there a PoC from some students in the open macro's? Perhaps >>> those guys can be hired to refine thei

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-29 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2017-12-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:25 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> 3D. Wasn't there a PoC from some students in the open macro's? Perhaps >> those guys can be hired to refine their work? > > can you point me towards it with some clues?

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Sam Huntress
We all seem to be talking past each other and I fear we may have some confusion about what a ponzi scheme actually is. In a ponzi scheme, money is taken from 'investors' under the false pretense (lie) that it will be used to fund operations with a positive return on investment when actually that m

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Julie Marchant
On 2017年12月29日 08:53, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > (1) if you're part of the 2nd batch you can at any time send > crowdsupply your order number, cc me, and i'll authorise a refund. > they have all the funds, stored in their bank account(s). also, you > don't need to read further, below.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:25 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > 2017-12-29 6:48 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Bill Kontos wrote: >>> If this goes >>> well it will go down in

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V RV64GC SoC

2017-12-29 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2017-12-29 6:48 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Bill Kontos wrote: >> If this goes >> well it will go down in history as one of those famous conversations >> in the early days of tech we read about. > > yehyeh! I think so too. And India is very keen on

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 / Libre RISC-V team financing

2017-12-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Julie Marchant wrote: > Ugh, did it again. Sorry. > > On 2017年12月28日 04:13, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> it's >> too close to the exploitation i've witnessed - and my friend has