Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:35 AM, Bill Kontos wrote: > What if the laptop in question has coreboot support? that helps identify some of the components and peripherals... but all of those peripherals wtith the exception

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Christopher Havel
BTW -- not *everything* is nearly as complex as Luke would have you believe. Close, but not quite, and the two doozies more than make up for the easier bits... Keyboards are invariably a passive switch matrix (look it up if you don't know -- you should, it's worth your time) and not that hard to r

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Christopher Havel
Quick follow-up (this time from my netbook) -- the 8086 and 8088 have a 20b address bus, so the address range is 0x0 to 0xF. Execution starts at location 0x0, according to the datasheet for the 8086 that I have on file. That *almost* makes sense if you only have 64k of memory in your sy

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread zap
>> I was interested in the laptop, but it was (and >> still is) >> outside of my budget. Do you think you could make a netbook housing that is >> more >> budget friendly, or are there too many unknowns for you to say? > having done several now i know pretty much exactly how long it will > take, t

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Christopher Havel
Forgive a top-post, please, Luke - I'm on my phone. Coreboot, IIRC, is a replacement for BIOS/UEFI. So if you have the original system's motherboard intact - in which case you cannot drop in the chip you want to drop in - you can replace the contents of what is essentially the boot ROM chip with c

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Bill Kontos
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > no. > > it is a vast amount of work. the LCD has to be researched (if its > datasheet is even available). a conversion circuit has to be designed > and manufactuered and before that it is necesssary to work out if > th

Re: [Arm-netbook] Testing: GPIO

2018-01-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Richard Wilbur wrote: > After looking at the schematics for the DS113 v2.7 2017-02-17 and the > microdesktop v1.7 I feel the need to ask whether there are more > up-to-date schematics av

[Arm-netbook] Testing: GPIO

2018-01-18 Thread Richard Wilbur
After looking at the schematics for the DS113 v2.7 2017-02-17 and the microdesktop v1.7 I feel the need to ask whether there are more up-to-date schematics available? Results of my sleuthing thus far attached. GPIO (General Purpose Input / Output) DS113 Schematic v2.7 2017-02-17 page 3, lists PA

[Arm-netbook] http://www.emff.urjc.es/members/arrayas_files/Articles/PhysRep.pdf

2018-01-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hi theo, been talking to the mathematician behind that paper on knots, he explained that the "null condition" is where the EM field is... zero, and that the E is perpendicular to M at all points. it's not the same thing as the "non-radiating condition" for which you have to take a fourier transfor

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Louis Pearson wrote: > On a slightly different topic, how much would it take for you to design a > eoma68 compliant netbook housing? it'd be about the same amount of time as the laptop (about 18 months) as there is almost nothing in common that can be utilised b

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Christopher Havel
Not to mention that, at least in terms of hardware, there's very little that's standard about laptops, ever -- the display protocol, sort of maybe, and the drives, and that's about it. There;'s a reason those machines tend to go together and come apart like a jigsaw puzzle without the box!

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Louis Pearson
On a slightly different topic, how much would it take for you to design a eoma68 compliant netbook housing? I was interested in the laptop, but it was (and still is) outside of my budget. Do you think you could make a netbook housing that is more budget friendly, or are there too many unknowns for

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 4:35 PM, wrote: > Original Message > From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > Apparently from: arm-netbook-boun...@lists.phcomp.co.uk > To: Eco-Conscious Computing > Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:17:18 + > > >> sure... i

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread ronwirring
Original Message From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton Apparently from: arm-netbook-boun...@lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:17:18 + > sure... i will however need sponsorship to cover the cost in time

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 4:06 PM, wrote: >> use the rk3399 in a libre fashion? > > Can you make a fsf compliant notebook based on the rk3399 > mainboards I have seen for sale? sure... i will however need sponsorship to cover the cost in time and also the parts, to do so - estimated about... a y

Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399

2018-01-18 Thread ronwirring
Original Message From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton Apparently from: arm-netbook-boun...@lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:26:32 + > use the rk3399 in a libre fashion? Can you make a fsf compliant no