Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-24 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday, 24 November 2022 01:55:28 CET Christopher Havel wrote: > > Luke has the talking-stick at this point, and when he's done, I'll have it > back. I will be entirely ignoring the rest of you lot. It's a sad day when > I'm just about the only adult in the room, I find this insulting and co

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-23 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday, 23 November 2022 23:19:01 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > what i am *very* pissed off about and will not tolerate is > people assuming that i can and am going to do everything for > them. this attitude is completely unacceptable. Nobody asked you "to do everything for t

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-23 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:01:25 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > OK, when someone is asked by Crowd Supply to contact the creators > > directly, you (as creator #1) are evidently too busy >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 21 November 2022 22:38:48 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > paul, apologies, i misread. let me start again. > > On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > One is too busy and directs us to the other who is incommunicative. > > this is t

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 21 November 2022 22:27:48 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 9:02 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > I have never communicated with Christopher Waid. > > ah as Thinkpenguin is only 2.5 people, one of whom does not > an

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 21 November 2022 19:21:41 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Paul: it really is very important for you to do the same, > because in over 18 months you are literally the only > person ever to have received a response of any kind. I have never communicated with Christopher Waid.

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:32:51 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > Apparently, asking Crowd Supply about project status tends to elicit a > > response directing inquirers to the project creators. > &g

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2022-11-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 21 December 2021 09:27:21 CET Felix wrote: > As alway, hope you are doing well, but I can't avoid to ask :P Any follow > up? Coming up on a year after this last message and two years after the last Crowd Supply update, I wonder if there is any news at all. I also notice that ThinkPen

[Arm-netbook] Various projects somewhat related to the EOMA initiative

2022-06-29 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, There doesn't seem to be much EOMA68 news any more, but I was reminded of some of the ideas brought up in the context of the initiative by a few products or projects that came to my attention recently. One interesting product is the Mixtile Blade 3 which just about met its funding goal

Re: [Arm-netbook] Site updates (was Re: Schematic and PCB layout CAD files)

2022-02-01 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday, 30 January 2022 23:38:04 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 10:29 PM Philip Hands wrote: > > If you notice any oddities, please mention them, as I may have missed > > something in the move. > > brilliant, thanks for sorting this Phil, really appreciated y

[Arm-netbook] Site updates (was Re: Schematic and PCB layout CAD files)

2022-01-30 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 17 June 2019 13:15:18 CET Paul Boddie wrote: > On Monday 17. June 2019 08.40.22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > > repo that i started 6 years ago: > > http://git.rhombus-tech.net/?p=eoma.git;a=summary > > I'll send you that, trying to re

Re: [Arm-netbook] links at rhombus-tech recent changes -> 404 not found

2022-01-18 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:56:31 CET Pablo Rath wrote: > Hello, > It seems to me that the recent changes listed here: > http://rhombus-tech.net/recentchanges/ do no longer work correctly (broken > links). Yes, it has been like this for a while, I think. You can still get to see the content if

Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

2021-03-29 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 29 March 2021 12:13:08 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Monday, March 29, 2021, Felix wrote: > > Hey Luke, hope you and your and fam are doing well ;) We haven't heard > > anything from you in a while, and would be great to have an status update > > or something similar :P

Re: [Arm-netbook] Pluton: M$ firmware and TPM to be built into your processor...

2020-12-12 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday, 12 December 2020 17:11:28 CET David Niklas wrote: > Hi, > It has been a while since I posted. Today I have bad news. Apparently, M$ > has been working with AMD, Intel, and Qualcomm to place a new type of > TPM into their CPUs, APUs, and SoCs. It's already inside of the new XBox > proce

[Arm-netbook] Somewhat off-topic updates about Ryzen, PolarFire, HiFive and Elbrus (was Re: Current status)

2020-11-28 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:36:28 CET Paul Boddie wrote: > > So, upcoming AMD products could be decent, but I would be wary about > stability for a while after their release. Following the Linux kernel bug > tracker can be informative: > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ > &g

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68-A20, MD 1.7 severe Power Problems

2020-07-26 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:54:27 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > you *need* a stable supply to do that (1.5 preferably 2.0 A) designed > *specifically* for providing USB power. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES plug the 12v > PSU into the USB socket. and DO NOT use an "off-the-shelf generic 5.0v

[Arm-netbook] DDR3 RAM Design Rules and Techniques

2020-07-25 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, One thing that just came up in another forum is the matter of routing PCB tracks for DDR3 RAM, and this is probably a topic that was encountered by both the Pyra... https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/analyzing-4gb-ram.81687/ https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/is-there-really

Re: [Arm-netbook] Current not intel Laptop/UMPC/Handheld Options

2020-07-25 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:29:45 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > https://www.pine64.org/2020/07/24/all-about-the-pinetab-update/ > > lots of things still going on with Pine64. The Pyra is still edging its way towards completion, too: https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/forums/pyra-news

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:25:12 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 9:57 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > OK, so the housing DT will contain the following for a VGA port... > > paul: quite late, here, more tomorrow. summary strategy: > > * look a

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 20 July 2020 00:56:19 CEST Paul Boddie wrote: > > But there is also this: > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/devicetree/overlay-notes.html Which had been removed when I just checked. > Oddly, the syntax in the above is far simpler than various other guide

Re: [Arm-netbook] Current status

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 03:02:14 CEST David Niklas wrote: > On Monday, July 20, 2020, George Sokolsky wrote: > > > How people are moving forward with their computing needs? [...] > The RK3399 is a real winner of a processor, being sold on a lot of SBCs > for as little as $50. It's getting bet

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 00:49:48 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > i would prefer a level of indirection that names the EOMA68 pins by > numbers, these numbers to be nothing to do with the function > > the reason being that exactly like pinctrl all EOMA68 Interface pins > (except USB)

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-20 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 20 July 2020 01:38:34 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sunday, July 19, 2020, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > So, there would be the A20 DT itself, the EOMA68-A20 DT which exposes or > > enables various peripherals, > > so, some peripherals like t

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-19 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday, 20 July 2020 00:20:58 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sunday, July 19, 2020, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > The principal differences appear to be as follows: > > > > The EOMA68-A20 DT doesn't have HDMI nodes whereas the Cubieboard DTs have &

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-19 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday, 19 July 2020 22:43:59 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:35 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > It looks like the device tree (sun7i-a20-eoma68-a20.dts) is very similar > > to that from the Cubietruck 2. > > that sounds about ri

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-19 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday, 19 July 2020 22:19:37 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:02 PM Pablo Rath wrote: > > Ok. But what did you use as defconfig in configs/ (U-Boot mainline)? > > it was 4 years ago: your guess is as good as mine, unless i happened > to put it in the wiki s

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-19 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:32:41 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sunday, July 19, 2020, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > debian does have an archive site somewhere where they keep totally > > obsolete and discontinued distributions. > > http://archive.debian.org is supposed to be that l

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-19 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday, 19 July 2020 14:17:21 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > (btw thank you paul - and pablo - both) > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:18 PM Pablo Rath wrote: > > > > This is extremly helpful. I am going to try it out. Can you copy that to > > the wiki? > > yes please, paul. OK, I'v

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-19 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:17:38 CEST Pablo Rath wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 07:19:37PM +0200, Paul Boddie wrote: > > I saw that there is a section about legacy U-Boot in the page: > > > > http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner/a20/EOMA68-A20_2-7-4_preproduction/ >

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-07-18 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday, 10 July 2020 08:59:07 CEST Pablo Rath wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 11:43:58AM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > > yes, this is standard practice. you create the link on the parent, > > first, then it creates a question-mark, then you get an edit link. if > > you kn

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: Command Not Found

2020-07-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:05:52 CEST Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:43 AM Pičugins Arsenijs wrote: > > https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/command-not-found > > > > Note on the 'lsusb' thing: I personally like the 'dmesg -Hw &' command, it

Re: [Arm-netbook] 2.7.4 preproduction sample, 1.7 MD, Questions

2020-06-16 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 10:44:47 CEST Pablo Rath wrote: > I have recieved an EOMA68-A20 2.7.4 preproduction computer card and the 1.7 > micro desktop (MD) last week. Just for clarification these boards are > nothing new and have been discussed on this mailing list. > If some of you already have th

Re: [Arm-netbook] MNT Reform Campaign

2020-05-13 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 12. May 2020 19.20.37 Christopher Havel wrote: > Forgive me for asking, because I didn't quite pass the requisite fervency > test to be enrolled in the Joint OSHW-F|L|OSS Technical Militia ( :P ), but > remind me, please, of a couple things, if I may ask them...? I can try and provide s

[Arm-netbook] MNT Reform Campaign

2020-05-12 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, It got mentioned about two-and-a-half years ago on this list, but the MNT Reform campaign has finally begun: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/reform Of potential relevance to those following EOMA68-related efforts might be various resources that the MNT Reform effort has made available:

Re: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor?

2020-03-10 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 9. March 2020 23.02.30 David Niklas wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 00:07:44 + Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > > 100 megawatt. err.. where do you source the uranium or plutonium? > > > > err. > > AFAIK, you buy it from the US gov. in the USA. For other countries you >

Re: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay?

2020-03-02 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 2. March 2020 20.22.27 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/coronavirus-and-a-plan-for-pcb-testing Thanks once again for keeping us up-to-date! And more important than that, to hear the personal side of things, people looking aft

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: Measurements and a Hypothesis

2020-01-24 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, Sorry, just warming this thread up with a few random observations... On Monday 2. December 2019 20.05.55 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 3:23 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/measurements

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V -- I mean OpenPower M-Class GPU update

2020-01-03 Thread Paul Boddie
On 2020-01-02 00:28, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: after they got the ARM7 functional, barry managed to get ARM their very first license, ever: with Plessey. they were so happy, they offered him a job. barry turned it down: he would have been employee number 12, and a very rich man, now

Re: [Arm-netbook] Libre RISC-V -- I mean OpenPower M-Class GPU update

2020-01-01 Thread Paul Boddie
On 2020-01-01 22:09, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: the collaboration that is in place, and which is otherwise successfully taking place, is taking place behind *closed doors*, where we, as Libre Businesses, are told, basically, "sign this agreement which entirely compromises your business

[Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: Measurements and a Hypothesis

2019-12-02 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello again, I saw the latest update when it was issued a few days ago, with these details being particularly important: "PCBs are etched with acid, and when the tracks or pads are particularly close together (such as with BGA balls), not enough acid gets in to eat away the copper, and (in a v

Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdsupply update 27sep2019 power regulators

2019-11-08 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 29. September 2019 01.35.31 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Ahh yes. The lovely fraud by china taobao sellers. Crack open the 200uF > capacitor and it contains a 10uF one inside. > > Mike on the other hand has a solid relationship with his suppliers, one he > buys a million comp

[Arm-netbook] STM32MP1

2019-09-21 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, I saw that Olimex were getting excited about a ST Microelectronics SoC that, at least in some forms, might be an interesting EOMA-related candidate, too: https://olimex.wordpress.com/2019/09/03/stm32mp1-nice-candidate-for-new-industrial-grade-olinuxino-lime/ https://olimex.wordpress.com/

Re: [Arm-netbook] Fwd: [eoma68 update] report back from factory on HDMI

2019-07-03 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 3. July 2019 09.03.44 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Mike's staff began the PCB assembly of the run of 100, and had to stop > at 36. 20 were ok: 16 of them, the HDMI connector refused to fit. > The reason: the CNC machining on the edge of the PCB has not been done > accurate

Re: [Arm-netbook] eoma68 a20 card production

2019-06-29 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 21. June 2019 22.13.02 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > Reason why 3.4.104+ has to be shipped was explained 18 or so months ago. > > Entire OSes need to be redone otherwise. I have tried to document some of this here: http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/status/ Some other topi

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-06-17 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 17. June 2019 08.40.22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:14 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > On Wednesday 12. June 2019 02.09.12 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > added here > > > http://rhombus-tech.net/pcmcia_sources/ > &

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-06-16 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 12. June 2019 02.09.12 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > added here > http://rhombus-tech.net/pcmcia_sources/ I have updated this page with some more details and some remarks about the physical constraints involved. If such remarks belong elsewhere, feel free to move them. I

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-06-11 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday 1. June 2019 21.18.34 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 7:05 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > Knowing your policy on information existing only on the list, > > que? no, the wiki's there for people to edit and make the > informa

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel's at it again

2019-06-09 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 9. June 2019 22.38.55 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 10:10 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > Reminds me of Olimex's SOM204. Must be three times better than EOMA68: > > > > https://www.olimex.com/Products/SOM204/ > > standa

Re: [Arm-netbook] Intel's at it again

2019-06-09 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 3. June 2019 20.59.11 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:18 PM David Niklas wrote: > > > > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Intel's at it again: > > https://www.anandtech.com/show/14467/intel-launches-the-nuc-compute-element-for-modular-computing-sy

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-06-01 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 31. May 2019 23.49.57 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Saturday, June 1, 2019, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > The inner dimensions are actually interesting for practical reasons, which > > was why I was asking about the range of PCB sizes. > > If there

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-05-31 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 31. May 2019 17.06.14 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:47 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > Also, the A10 news page has mentions of these dimensions from several > > years > > ago: > > > > http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ne

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-05-31 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 21. May 2019 21.57.16 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 5:43 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > Again, in case anyone wanted to take a closer look. > > thanks paul. No problem! Actually, looking a bit closer at PCB-related topics, I started to won

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-05-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 20. May 2019 13.18.14 Paul Boddie wrote: > > Also, this board is distinct from the Olimex A64-based laptop and SOM board, > with the latter being completely proprietary, as I understand it. I thought that I should point out, however, that the laptop board designs includin

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-05-20 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 20. May 2019 04.22.41 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:09 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > On the topic of KiCad and designs related to the EOMA68-A20 cards, it is > > worth noting that the Olimex A64-OLinuXino board schematic and layout is &

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schematic and PCB layout CAD files

2019-05-19 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday 18. May 2019 18.49.32 Jakub Kákona wrote: > > And yes, Arun, unavailability of easily sharable CAD design formats is a > blocker of potential widespread use by the community. But I personally > hope, there will be enough appeal of open design files that I or someone > else redesign it

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: 2.7.5 Cards Under Way, NLnet, and Intel Compute Card

2019-05-06 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 6. May 2019 02.56.03 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > not in this case: the application was only rejected because the NLnet > Foundation needed to tick a single box, "you're one person applying > for 2 projects, and we have a 1st-project-1st-application limit of EUR > $50k. is t

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: 2.7.5 Cards Under Way, NLnet, and Intel Compute Card

2019-05-05 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 5. May 2019 22.02.09 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > yep :) the good news is, the dev-process issues are resolved, > production just rolls off the assembly line. Great! [...] > btw, i meant to ask you, paul: would you like to be the person that > applies for the NLnet

[Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: 2.7.5 Cards Under Way, NLnet, and Intel Compute Card

2019-05-05 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, Thanks once again for another update on the progress being made with the different boards: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/2-7-5-cards-under-way-nlnet-and-intel-compute-card It must be frustrating to encounter production issues (with the Micro Desktop), but I im

Re: [Arm-netbook] TIL: Intel's credit-card sized modular computer is "inspired" by EOMA68

2019-03-25 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 8. February 2017 01.04.35 Paul Boddie wrote: > > Still, showering the market with products isn't likely to diminish consumer > confusion, is it? Intel's own corporate attention span is as much a threat > to this product as almost anything else. And as anticip

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: 500 Micro Desktop PCB Assemblies

2019-03-23 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello again, It was nice to see this latest update on the project: "Just a brief update: Mike’s factory has assembled the 500 Micro Desktop PCBs, though the through-hole VGA connectors still need to be hand-soldered on. These are the simpler of the two boards, so all of the Micro Desktops are

[Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Computing Devices Update: New Factory Equipment, New Grant Proposal

2019-02-03 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, Good to see another update: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/new-factory-equipment-new-grant-proposal I hope Mike is bearing up in the face of his recent difficulties. With regard to your funding proposal [1], I see that you wish to revive the other computer card

Re: [Arm-netbook] Huge RAM requirements (was: What do 1, 000 EOMA68-A20 PCBs look like?)

2018-12-12 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 12. December 2018 19.19.43 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:39 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > Although it's not a 64-bit CPU and is MIPS-based not ARM-based, wasn't the > > JZ4775 board almost done? > > pr

Re: [Arm-netbook] Huge RAM requirements (was: What do 1, 000 EOMA68-A20 PCBs look like?)

2018-12-12 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 9. December 2018 05.07.51 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 7:54 PM zap wrote: > > Any plans to use rk3399 for a 2nd revision of the eoma68 standard? or > > any alternative arm processor? Since risc-v is maybe 3+ years out of the > > way? > > yes. bear in mi

Re: [Arm-netbook] microkernels

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 11. December 2018 01.46.29 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > SE/L4. one research group actually created a complete > minimum-compliant POSIX subsystem on top of SE/L4, absolutely nothing > to do with any operating system "per se", and then successfully ported > an entire qt-base

[Arm-netbook] Microkernel-based systems (was Re: Reframing The Holy War)

2018-12-10 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 10. December 2018 09.02.57 Adam Van Ymeren wrote: > On December 10, 2018 8:48:56 AM EST, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >Just curious -- what microkernel systems are available to run on modern > >home computers just in case one is tired of Linux and wanting to try > >something else? > > MIN

Re: [Arm-netbook] Reframing The Holy War

2018-12-09 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 9. December 2018 17.24.14 Jean Flamelle wrote: > > Linux's amplifying complexity hampers security. Of course, one could look more closely at microkernel-based systems for a possible remedy. Sadly, ever since the famous Torvalds versus Tanenbaum discussion, plenty of people cling to th

Re: [Arm-netbook] What do 1,000 EOMA68-A20 PCBs look like?

2018-12-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 7. December 2018 16.28.24 Wookey wrote: > On 2018-12-07 15:24 +0100, Paul Boddie wrote: > > Cross-building would be a workaround, but Debian appears fundamentally > > opposed to that, > > Do you mean 'as buildds'? I don't know. If that is the

Re: [Arm-netbook] What do 1,000 EOMA68-A20 PCBs look like?

2018-12-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 7. December 2018 08.49.57 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 2:39 AM Julie Marchant wrote: > > And as for 32-bit MIPS... just outta luck, I guess, at least until an > > FSF-approved distro starts supporting it. From what people have said about Debian, I can env

Re: [Arm-netbook] What do 1,000 EOMA68-A20 PCBs look like?

2018-12-06 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 6. December 2018 09.58.51 Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: > On 2018-12-05 at 17:40:29 +0100, Paul Boddie wrote: > > Of course, Debian supports everything of interest, but then there has to > > be a process of weeding out non-free packages and content. > >

Re: [Arm-netbook] What do 1,000 EOMA68-A20 PCBs look like?

2018-12-05 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 5. December 2018 03.38.59 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > it was quite hilarious to get up and running. > https://wiki.parabola.nu/MIPS_Installation - oh. discontinued. > that's not going to help *sigh*. Yes, it seems that people got enthusiastic when Stallman started using

[Arm-netbook] What do 1,000 EOMA68-A20 PCBs look like?

2018-12-04 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, Nice to see the progress being made in the recent update: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/what-do-1-000-eoma68-a20-pcbs-look-like It's a shame that you have to redo your Parabola bootstrapping. I experimented with bootstrapping Parabola on MIPS a few months ago u

[Arm-netbook] Latest Update

2018-10-31 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 18. October 2018 06.11.42 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 5:29 PM Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > P.S. Still no progress from Crowd Supply on the latest update? > > getting there Thanks for posting this, with it being publis

Re: [Arm-netbook] Should we support libre.computer's efforts at promoting lima?

2018-10-17 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 17. October 2018 16.30.17 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > it depends on what you take into account. if someone else pays the > NREs to the foundry, i.e. a university agrees to collaborate and is > offered access to a foundry for either free or at reduced rates, > $250k-$500k

Re: [Arm-netbook] Schedule Updates?

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 12. September 2018 11.13.51 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > hiya paul, thanks for the prompting: the latest update i wrote just > yesterday, and it doesn't pull any punches. i've had to take contract > work and it's a 100% full-time distraction. the DRAM's fine, new > 2.7.5

Re: [Arm-netbook] So this is kind of interesting, I thought...

2018-09-18 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 18. September 2018 14.05.44 Christopher Havel wrote: > https://hackaday.com/2018/09/17/a-1-linux-capable-hand-solderable-processor/ Interesting comment from Olimex: https://hackaday.com/2018/09/17/a-1-linux-capable-hand-solderable-processor/#comment-5108388 In short, the article is re

[Arm-netbook] Schedule Updates?

2018-09-11 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, I was reviewing the last update on Crowd Supply for the EOMA68 campaign [1], and taking information from that and from discussions on this list, it seems that the following timeline was being followed: 15th June: Crowd Supply update, prototype tested, DRAM tested and ordered,

Re: [Arm-netbook] Campaign Schedule and Future Sales/Products

2018-07-16 Thread Paul Boddie
First of all, thanks for taking the time to reply to my questions! On Monday 16. July 2018 04.38.34 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > [Campaign schedule] > Yes. Mike is being extra cautious, hes ordered the full set of components > now for 1000 cards and 500 mds. This is good to know! I im

Re: [Arm-netbook] kuala lumpur airport on way chennai

2018-07-14 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday 14. July 2018 13.35.06 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On way to 9th RISCV workshop in chennai, preliminary slides here > http://hands.com/~lkcl/libre_riscv_chennai_2018.pdf > > Contains links to other talks but not accepted ones. > > Paul Boddie i still owe y

[Arm-netbook] Campaign Schedule and Future Sales/Products

2018-06-24 Thread Paul Boddie
I saw the recent response to my enquiry ("EOMA68-A20 Prototype Status") which was augmented by a campaign update: "It’s going to take about a month to have the 8 Gbit 1600 MHz DDR3 x8 RAM ICs manufactured: we’re on the way. [...] All in all, it will likely take three months after getting the ca

[Arm-netbook] EOMA68-A20 Prototype Status

2018-06-03 Thread Paul Boddie
Hello, I don't want to intrude with questions whose answers are already known, but back in January there were estimates of "five to seven months" with regard to "shipping", by which I presume that the final hardware was meant: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/eoma68-a20-

Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

2017-04-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 21. April 2017 05.08.22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > bit too weird, man :) I had a bit of a sketch and came up with this: http://www.boddie.org.uk/downloads/EOMA68/logo.svg A lot of the earlier logos were quite literal and incorporated specific hardware details or tried to co

Re: [Arm-netbook] microdesktop casework as DXF files for laser-cutting

2017-04-02 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 2. April 2017 23.05.25 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ok so i've created corner-pieces which will need to be 3d-printed, > they contain slots for the PCB as well as for upright 1.5mm 3-ply > sides. the far corner near the PCMCIA eject button needs some work / > rethinking because

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

2017-03-13 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 13. March 2017 18.13.37 Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > x86. part-hardware-emulated x86 fine (like the Loongson 3H > > architecture did), non-x86, fine. pure x86: dying and dead very soon. > > Intel already tried that a *long* time ago, with the Itanium. It was > provided with software t

Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP

2017-03-10 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 10. March 2017 17.08.47 Julie Marchant wrote: > Trisquel forum thread here: > > https://trisquel.info/en/forum/amd-apparently-taking-requests-feedback-comm > unity > > And this is the Reddit thread where it happened: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_creators_

Re: [Arm-netbook] Olimex is making an "open-source" laptop...

2017-03-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 7. March 2017 03.53.26 Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Are we waiting for the Hurd? I don't know what level you're aiming for with that question, but the Hurd is available today. However, as I noted, a lot of deployments of Linux are being done in microkernel/hypervisor environments, so nobo

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm processors

2017-03-03 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 3. March 2017 01.47.49 Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > Source: > > https://olimex.wordpress.com/2017/02/07/fosdem-and-teres-i-update/ > > > > Some of that is specific to their laptop, but some of

Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm processors

2017-03-02 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 2. March 2017 22.20.27 Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > > wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:49 AM, zap wrote: > > reverse-engineering i have come to the conclusion is a total - and > > > > criminal - waste of time and effo

Re: [Arm-netbook] passthrough, a20 and rk3288 cards

2017-02-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 21. February 2017 21.16.54 Eric Duhamel wrote: > On February 21, 2017 3:52:12 AM PST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > >btw i didn't hear from anyone about the offer to send out > >pre-production cards. > > I'm tempted but I have nothing to bring to the Linux effort; zero > exper

Re: [Arm-netbook] passthrough, a20 and rk3288 cards

2017-02-21 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 21. February 2017 12.52.12 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ok so still waiting for the updates to go out from crowdsupply, brief > news in the meantime. > > revision 2.7.2 pre-production test pcb run has been ordered, i will be > assembling those myself, here in taiwan, using my h

Re: [Arm-netbook] Olimex is making an "open-source" laptop...

2017-02-12 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 5. February 2017 21.27.14 Paul Boddie wrote: > > I actually thought I'd ask about the software in the comments on their blog > post: > > https://olimex.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/teres-i-do-it-yourself-open-source- > hardware-and-software-hackers-friendly-lapt

Re: [Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling

2017-02-09 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 9. February 2017 21.23.19 Jonathan Frederickson wrote: > I agree with Julie here. If you tell users you're providing Debian, it > should be stock Debian (or as close as possible as is needed to > support the hardware). Likewise for every other distro. I agree with Jonathan and Julie he

Re: [Arm-netbook] TIL: Intel's credit-card sized modular computer is "inspired" by EOMA68

2017-02-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 8. February 2017 00.28.39 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > http://www.mouser.co.uk/pdfdocs/intel-joule-platform-mechanical- descriptor.pdf > > looks completely different Sorry, you're right! I saw something that resembled it, looked at the specifications which do include th

Re: [Arm-netbook] TIL: Intel's credit-card sized modular computer is "inspired" by EOMA68

2017-02-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 2. February 2017 00.00.01 Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook wrote: > Just saw this on Reddit: > https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard_sized_modular_computer_is/ I've been fed adverts for it now, leading to this product page at Mouser: http://w

Re: [Arm-netbook] Olimex is making an "open-source" laptop...

2017-02-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 7. February 2017 17.17.14 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Frederickson > > > > Sure, but is that a result of the hardware actually being that > > different or is it just because manufacturers aren't actually > > upstreaming their code? I

Re: [Arm-netbook] Olimex is making an "open-source" laptop...

2017-02-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 7. February 2017 15.29.59 Matt Campbell wrote: > On 2/7/2017 8:19 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: > > Plus, I don't really see Linux-the-kernel as the future, anyway. > > Why not? It has such momentum now; it would be a lot of work to port all > the drivers to anything

Re: [Arm-netbook] Olimex is making an "open-source" laptop...

2017-02-07 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 7. February 2017 15.01.51 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Not only that: if the machine doesn't run a vanilla Linux kernel, > there's a terribly good chance that 3 years down the road, you'll still > be stuck with the same outdated kernel. Right. Even when vendors actually release the corres

Re: [Arm-netbook] Olimex is making an "open-source" laptop...

2017-02-05 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 5. February 2017 20.25.42 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Christopher Havel wrote: > > > > Basically, I'm saying, it might not be the whole journey to a truly > > open-source system -- but it's a step in the right direction and should > > be reco

Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos

2017-01-30 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 30. January 2017 14.33.46 Julie Marchant wrote: > On 01/30/2017 05:25 AM, Alain Williams wrote: > > Unfortunately that is not good enough ... you are assuming that people > > will use the monchrome version of the logo rather than just photocopying > > the colour one on a monochrome copyie

[Arm-netbook] Mini-PCIe and other interfaces (was Re: Intel at CES)

2017-01-05 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 5. January 2017 22.30.42 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Alain Williams wrote: > > About 30 seconds in on the BBC video you get a quick view of the hole. > > ah!

[Arm-netbook] systemd dependencies (was Re: new development laptop needed, looking at dell xps 13 9350)

2016-12-08 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 8. December 2016 16.00.56 Julie Marchant wrote: > On 12/08/2016 09:25 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: > > I don't want to get into an argument about systemd, but one way of > > detecting systemd would to be for things to test for a file that always > > gets instal

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