Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-04 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, >>> H3 support is mostly hindered by availability and interest. >> >> I've got an H3 based SBC that I'm tinkering with, and a few others are >> also working on it. But that's getting off topic. > > no it's not: if there's a chance that a specific processor can be > utilised in EOMA68 Cards

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-03 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: >> H3 support is mostly hindered by availability and interest. > > I've got an H3 based SBC that I'm tinkering with, and a few others are > also working on it. But t

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-03 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:26 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: >> There are problems with the H3 (& variants) display driver, on the >> HDMI output front, >> as seen on : http://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations >> >> Currently the driver cannot be mainlained as-is. > > Bear in mind that page is

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-03 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2016-10-02 10:03 GMT+02:00 Vincent Legoll : > Hello, > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Not quite sure that is the case. U-Boot provides "early" setup, regulator > > and clocks etc., for u-boot output. SimpleFB takes over the settings from > > U-Boot (via u-boot

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-02 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Vincent Legoll wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >>> There are problems with the H3 (& variants) display driver, on the >>> HDMI out

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-02 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> There are problems with the H3 (& variants) display driver, on the >> HDMI output front, >> as seen on : http://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations >> >> Currently the driver cannot be mainlained as-is. > > ... and as direct

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-02 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Vincent Legoll wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com > wrote: >> Not quite sure that is the case. U-Boot provides "early" setup, regulator >> and clocks

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-10-02 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM, mike.v...@gmail.com wrote: > Not quite sure that is the case. U-Boot provides "early" setup, regulator > and clocks etc., for u-boot output. SimpleFB takes over the settings from > U-Boot (via u-boot modified device-tree). But a proper KMS/DRM driver (sunxi

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Joseph Honold wrote: > On 09/26/2016 03:39 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> *deep breath* ok so i've been writing non-stop since i previously >> replied, and can only reaso

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-29 Thread Joseph Honold
On 09/26/2016 03:39 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > *deep breath* ok so i've been writing non-stop since i previously > replied, and can only reasonably say to be 15% through what's > needed (!) > > http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA68#EOMA68_Software_.2F_OS_Re

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-27 Thread mike.v...@gmail.com
2016-09-24 5:27 GMT+02:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton : > > > > Let's switch to the Pocket QWERTY Computer as an example instead of > router. The A20 cpu card ships with Parabola, a desktop/workstation style > OS. I want my customers to have a good experience when they use my handheld > housing

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-27 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
oh my god i just realised the scope of what this project really is about, and quite how ridiculous an amount of work it is going to be to define it properly. joseph, if i may use you as an example: you want to create hardware, yes? so there are a stack of things that you need to know... but do yo

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Joseph Honold wrote: >> yyep. all perfectly reasonable and nothing to do with the >> spec... but if the Card is incapable of booting *unless* that >> external media is present, that's unacceptable. > > No, it's not part of the spec, just trying to make a poin

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: >>> Care to elaborate a bit on that, is there more information somewhere, >>> a bug report, anything ? >> >> *i* haven't... because the linux-sunxi community operat

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA68/Software#Libre_Software.2C_PCB_and_Casework_Engineers ha maaan, ok moved this to a separate page, i'd particularly appreciate some input / feedback / perspectives on this section, as it's more of an opportunity to explain why people w

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Vincent Legoll
>> Care to elaborate a bit on that, is there more information somewhere, >> a bug report, anything ? > > *i* haven't... because the linux-sunxi community operate off of > non-free infrastructure. You could also report that kind of things to LKML, as a generic ARM problem, it'll probably reach a s

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> I ask because the 300 seconds uptime rings >> a bell, maybe not relevant, but suspicious at least. The kernel was >> (maybe still is) initializing

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: > Hello, > >> btw remember that mainline u-boot / kernel *does* actually work... >> with the Revision 2.2 EOMA68-A20 Cards it just only works for about 90 >> to 300

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, > btw remember that mainline u-boot / kernel *does* actually work... > with the Revision 2.2 EOMA68-A20 Cards it just only works for about 90 > to 300 seconds and i haven't been able to track down why. Care to elaborate a bit on that, is there more information somewhere, a bug report, anyt

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-26 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
*deep breath* ok so i've been writing non-stop since i previously replied, and can only reasonably say to be 15% through what's needed (!) http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA68#EOMA68_Software_.2F_OS_Requirements l. ___ arm-ne

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-25 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Joseph Honold wrote: > On 09/23/2016 10:27 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> btw joseph, could you please use a mailer that doesn't place entire >> paragraphs onto a single line? the general rule for mailing >> lists is to have line-breaks approximately

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-25 Thread Joseph Honold
On 09/23/2016 10:27 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > btw joseph, could you please use a mailer that doesn't place entire > paragraphs onto a single line? the general rule for mailing > lists is to have line-breaks approximately every 70 chars or so. > usually this can be achieved by ensu

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Louis Pearson wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:27 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> >> > What if the next CPU card does not have an SD slot (it's not required by >> > th

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-24 Thread Louis Pearson
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:27 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > What if the next CPU card does not have an SD slot (it's not required by > the spec)? > > now you're into "cheap-ass" territory. people who pay cheap-ass > money for cheap-ass goods can expect to "get what they pay for". >

Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-23 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
btw joseph, could you please use a mailer that doesn't place entire paragraphs onto a single line? the general rule for mailing lists is to have line-breaks approximately every 70 chars or so. usually this can be achieved by ensuring that you reply "plaintext" mode only, disabling "rich text" for

[Arm-netbook] EOMA Specification / Documentation Issues

2016-09-23 Thread Joseph Honold
I've changed the subject of this since it went way off topic from this QWERTY Handheld thread: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2016-September/012099.html On 09/22/2016 08:01 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> ok, so it's not written in the spec yet. > > correct. this is