Dude :) Nagaraj ! Arr is blessed with immeasurable creativity of his times with
technology. Else how could we enjoy many Arrs voices in khwaja song. That mail
is addressed in neutral for some may discriminate mds without knowing them
their best. The links for you is to provide on guitars in general & vana
kuyilae (jairam) of rhythmed bass guitar (low sounds). Until one gets to know
the majority of hits of those mds, cannot be knowing their mastery entirely. So
it is better not to suppress other mds unknowing their times & hits. Being a
music addict, i could appreciate Sukhwinder Singhs Black N White or SEL, VB or
Vidyasagar works. Arr is to be taken as next generation md after IR times. Fans
who are on or before IR times & fans who learn music, composing etc. can relate
to the mastery of both Arr & IR. Fans who could relate only to Arr times wont
be knowing IR better.
Regards Pavn
Nagaraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Pavan,
I understand the point you are trying to make..
But I guess my mail conveyed a wrong message to you..
Actually, I had a doubt whether the instrument used in the Ithu oru
ponmalai pozuthu song was really bass guitar..I am not gud in
identifying bass guitar or other instruments for that matter..
So wanted to know, so that I can learn more..thats it..
No intention of doing doing comparison between IR-ARR on bass guitar
I dont think i am qualified to do that as I cant even properly
identify bass guitar first :) Thats the reason i made the subject line
'Non ARR'. If i am making a comparison its related to ARR and I wud
have made it ARR :) .. Sorry if my mail conveyed wrong message..
btw, I definitely second your thoughts though it was not exactly the
reply i was expecting :) And also thanks for the links you provided..
I understand bass guitar better now..:)
Regards,
S.V.Nagaraj
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, arr pavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dude Nagaraj ! few days back, i read an interesting thought of words
from a real estate advt as told by a 13th century saint. It says, "Do
what is necessary. In that, do what is possible. Suddenly you will
find yourself doing the impossible". Arr is the case of impossible
thing that he excelled to skies. Including IR sir, those who all gave
chance to ARR in his initial stages must be thanked at this point.
Arr certainly worked with a good task master, maestro Ilayaraja. You
need to be motivated to reach heights. IR & other such directors have
been a cause of motivation for ARR.
>
> From there ARR sharpened & moulded his creativity. Without the
basics & main curriculum you cannot jump to creative point. These
video links related to guitars for those who think IR otherwise. Lot
more there on these lines. When we prepare our Resume, we do not
ignore our previous employers & include them as our experience. We are
grateful to previous employers for giving an opportunity howsoever we
differ with them. While we were struggling for an opening, we got that
job. I could say we would definitely gained more confidence in work in
initial stages which makes to move to next offer & so on to do our own
business successfully.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=_izL5KkDbhU
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQqb6KPpRoM
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=owiXDr1xQ8Y
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=h2qaO9QyHCk
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=4LA0d-8q0XQ
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=qeUQF7pdn7M
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Em71WU3H638
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=h2qaO9QyHCk
>
>
>
>
> Nagaraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Is the starting part of ithu oru ponmalai pozhuthu a gud example of
> IR's guitar?
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "arr_raghu" <arr_raghu@> wrote:
> >
> > Thulasi Ram, I agree that ARR is pioneer is projecting
> > professional value of any instrument.. not just guitar.
> > Regarding that question, neither do I have any examples
> > of IR using bass... but the idea came to my mind for the
> > reasons that IR is a guitar expert by himself and uses
> > guitar extensively in his compositions whenever it is possible.
> > I was only gussing, didnt confirm.
> > Just occured to me that how can the guitar gold medalist
> > compose 700+ films without using bass.
> > If we talk about ARR's Vellaipookkal, kamosh raath,
> > jumbalika, likku chuppi , n-y-nagaram, roobaroo standout for guitar
> > not just bass.
> >
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Thulasi Ram" <karokelip@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Raghu! din expect this from u!!! any examples of that MD using an
> > electric
> > > guitar??? i've hardly heard his songs have any traces of guitar..
> > and it is
> > > really surprising to hear that he used every possible version of
> > guitar..
> > > oops!~!
> > >
> > > i dont know abt RDB but i think that one should agree that ARR
> uses ever
> > > version of guitar or any other instrument in the best possible way
> > it could
> > > be handled..
> > >
> > > ARR handles the sound even from a dolak in a more "professional"
> > manner..
> > > that's his amazing musical trait..
> > >
> > > the song that immediately strikes my mind is "kannodu
> > kanbedhellam".. the
> > > melam percussion was handled in a serene way and it added so much
> > beauty to
> > > the song.. there is only one reason for that: it is ARRs magic!
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:25 PM, arr_raghu <arr_raghu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Illaya Raja must have used every possible version of guitar.
> > > >
> > > > arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Prasad
> > > > Varma <svspvarma@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am afraid not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think RDB first used it way back in 1970 in the song Gulabi
> Ankhen
> > > > from The Train.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3hQDsEJQ
> > > > >
> > > > > RDB had a trademark sound characterized by a unique rhythm
and the
> > > > bass guitar in the back ground which made most of his songs
> instantly
> > > > recognizable.
> > > > > dont have th
> > > > > Here's another example from Yeh Vaada Raha which came out in the
> > > > early 80s:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar
> around his
> > > > melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop
> > > > itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > > From: Chord <purevibz@>
> > > > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM
> > > > > Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just
> > > > brilliant. It adds
> > > > > a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and
> > > > > fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is
he the
> > > > > first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in
> film
> > > > > songs?
> > > > >
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