I keep wondering wen this will stop!!! People comparing 2 completely different albums as to which is best.... GURU & Unnale unnale are faaaaaaarrrrr apart in every aspect - their flavor, language, story, director, MD and most important - "Their PERIOD". A world class Music director wont compromise on "quality" (as quoted by some) without reason. ARR always gives a lot more than wat Mani and the audience expect from him in their combos and according to me he has done that in GURU too.... U cant expect computerised tones and loops to play in a story depicting the 70s do u??? Jeeva's films on the other hand demand freshness and youth in the music and Harris has provided it too... On the whole there is nothin similar between these 2 albums... So please stop saying that our Boss is 2nd to anyone in terms of quality or tone or freshness or anything for that matter.... The real fact is that ARR has matured a lot more than any other music composer and he is the only one who can do wonders in any kind of film - be it a period, offbeat, love story, commercial, etc, etc.... I cant stop wondering why we fans ourselves doubt our BOSS wen professionals in the field themselves admit that ARR is the best in mixing and "BALANCING Frequencies"....... I am sure every song in GURU will fit in neatly with the movie... Wait & watch folks With Luv, A.Dhinesh
On 12/20/06, up84mouli <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: > > Hi Fans, > > I dont know what is the "number" of this explanation, but anyway - > thought I will also do my bit here... > > When you "consider" seriously, there may be some possibilities as I > have listed them below. > > 1. Guru might not have needed that kind of sound. Mani was probably > given some samples and it might well be HE who decided it. > > 2. Rahman probably "hires" those equipments as a cost-cut measure and > Mani is an MBA. So, they might have "calculated" a lot of things about > what is important rather than going with THE BEST always... > > 3. Guru involves a "period element" in its story. That is why they > didn't use ultra-modern lyrics and so did away with the ultra-sfx > sound stuff and went with something that is warm and original, > reminding us to some extent the (g)olden times. That is my reasoning > why there was a song like "Baazi Lagaa" in the first place, but why it > DIDNT sound at least like the rest is something I myself am thinking > about... > > 4. I will now return to the "old classical arguement" and mention ONLY > ONE point that suit this writing IN GENERAL - including, but not > restricted to Guru. > > Rahman uses more LIVE instruments and wants them to sound just like > that (WHHIWWH (What he hears is what WE hear)) - of course with some > manipulations and improvisations here and there... > > Finally, I DONT get a feeling something has gone wrong. > > Please reply to the following: > > Mention some ARR songs which sounded EXACTLY like HR's Unnaale > Unnaale. So that... > > a. We can understand what you (the person who started it and those who > support it) are trying to refer exactly as the difference. > > b. We can try to respond "quantitatively" to the message... > > Thanks for reading. > Chandra. > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>, > "Alan Hadle .H" <arsaregama@ ...> > wrote: > > > > here goes my explanation. . > > > > frd > > unnale unnale is a ameatur album in my view.. he starts off with the > > strings u think u are upto a rock song but suddenly he brings in pop > > beats..finally makes up a song that is loud but not clear..harris in > > my point is recycling old christian songs.u would have noticed that > > the song paartha mudhal naale is an abrupt copy of the song yesu > > pirantharey. . quality and even in ur terms loudness wise rahman is not > > in the comparable distance.. hear meenaxi.. hear lakeer,tehzeeb u will > > feel the difference.. of course tamil has a lot of classics ..have u > > heard love birds of rahman except malaragale i would call it an album > > similar to harris.. it was popular at tht time but today no one > > listens to it like they listen to roja ,alaipayuthe kandukondain etc.. > > harris albums r all the ame like love birds.. > > > > sillenu oru kadhal had different sounds thats wht a rahman album is > > all about.. u get set to the sounds after repetitive hearing.. i dunt > > know what ur musical taste is but ppl like me would wait for new > > sounds in every rahman album.. guru is a classic don't compare it with > > unnale unnale..its like comparing pudhiya mugam and minnale.. rahman > > isnt missing anything.. in fact he is giving more loops to harris for > > free lol > > music is all abt hearing new sounds in different combo's so cheer up.. > > signs > > alanhadley > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>, > "yeshrao81" <yeshrao81@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > I just feel ARR is using too many instruments and layers these > > > days...and that makes overall song a bit unclear. > > > > > > If he just uses basic bass guitar, piano and drums and great > > > melodies.... he will sound a lot more like his 90s.. > > > > > > Anyways...as for HJ...I think there is nothing else other loudness > > > in his recordings.. . > > > > > > ARR is trying somehing new....but I would suggest he uses very few > > > instruments. ..like he did in > > > 1. Oh vennilla (kadhal desam) > > > 2. Thendrale (kadhal desam) > > > 3. Kollaiyile (kadhalan) > > > 4. Minnale nee vandhu (may madham) > > > 5. tHEN kilakku cheemaiyile( kILAKKU Cheemaiyile) > > > 6. Thamila Thamila (Roja) > > > 7. Rasathi (Thiruda Thiruda) > > > 8. Vellai Pookal (KM) > > > 9. En mel vizhundha malai thuili (May madham) > > > 10. Nila Kaigiradhu (Indira) > > > These numbers had best melody and magical bass and guitars...HJ has > > > not even done anything like this so far! > > > > > > The best sound is not necessarily loud ones....but also brings in > > > each instrument to the listener very clearly....example is Thiruda > > > Thiruda. > > > > > > But I should say...swades, bose, had great sound recording. > > > > > > Is H sridhar still doing the sound engineering for ARR? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Yeshwanth > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>, > "arunsoft2k" <arunsoft2k@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I kinda felt the same with the sound quality.But following quality > > > > of Harris make me feel He is far far far away from ARR in any other > > > > aspects.... > > > > > > > > Tunes.dont you feel its immature sometime.... some of them sounds > > > > good though supported by the quality of sound. > > > > > > > > Lady singers choice sucks big time for most of the songs. > > > > > > > > He is trying false voice but dude he's spoiling the song in most > > > > cases. > > > > > > > > I think he's inspiring most of the western music and also I feel > > > his > > > > tunes are based on late 80's english pop music. > > > > > > > > "Arr is Arr". > > > > > > > > ARR is master of all the above thats why as you mentioned he > > > > is "world class".He doesn't even need great sound quality to prove > > > > that. But you are right ARR might need to try something more in > > > the > > > > sound quality including 5.1 recording then it would be a additonal > > > > bonus for some of us. i too felt Harris soungs good in 5.1. i get > > > > surprised sometime. > > > > > > > > But nothin to worry about. > > > > > > > > Arun. > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. > > > > com>, > haja nawaz <haaaaja@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi frenz... > > > > > Yesterday evening my frend came to my house and listened to > > > > GURU songs..He heard the songs and said that the songs are nice and > > > > required time to grow on u..Then he moved to the next folder (THE > > > > NAME OF THE FOLDER IS "NEW FOLDER")and put a song (the song > > > is "JUNE > > > > PONA" from > > > > > "UNNALE UNNALE" , A HJ musical) and atonce said " dei what a > > > > song! this is > > > > > from which film ?" ( he didnt know that it is a HJ musical) > > > > That > > > > > actually is a good song too... > > > > > > > > > > What i m trying to say here is that he was attracted by > > > > something in the HJ song that is lacking in ARR's one..Not much > > > > about the tune but the audio quality... > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying ARR has poor audio quality but somewhat less > > > > compared to HJ..With HJ's audio quality even the moderate songs are > > > > sounding great.. > > > > > > > > > > But logically , being a World Class Music Director ARR shud > > > have > > > > the highest audio quality but thats not true here ... we shud > > > accept > > > > this fact even as a ARR fan although it is harsh...I have already > > > > send a mail regarding this earlier.. > > > > > > > > > > From his first to his latest albums, all HJ songs sound louder > > > > and most importantly very clear..We wont lose even a single sound... > > > > > > > > > > Tunewise ARR is king..he is more than that..but qualitywise HJ > > > > is one or two steps far than our king.. > > > > > > > > > > I was heartbroken upon my frend's reaction..BUt i have to > > > > accept one fact that UNNALE sounds louder ,clearer and something > > > > fresh in my CREATIVE 5.1 speakers compared to GURU > > > > > > > > > > But i dont say GURU is of low quality..i love 5 songs very > > > much > > > > in > > > > > guru but only 2 songs in UNNALE..But the latter sounds fresh > > > > qualitywise. . > > > > > > > > > > Why this is happening..He needs to surely look into this > > > > matter.. > > > > > > > > > > Guyz as a true fan we should not stop at only praising the > > > > merits in the tune but also to let him know about the flaws in the > > > > songs... > > > > > > > > > > Guys again i m saying that i dont say that ARR's songs have > > > poor > > > > quality or less quality ... There is no doubt he is having one of > > > > the world's well equipped studio...but i cant understand y it > > > > happens though...Again i m stressing on > > > > > " comparatively with HJ" > > > > > > > > > > Ok guyz i m expecting ur comment on > > > > > this.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! > > > > Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger. yahoo.com/ download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
