Nice hair splitting Jim. If they did say it, am I wrong to suggest that you believe they said it? What are you protesting here? Would you rather I said that you don't believe they said it?
Also, as I racall, the quote from those 3 people as posted (I don't remember if it was you or Leslie who posted it) portended classism, not racism, which are entirely different things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Keady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <<Jim turned it to an invite to talk to 3 people > he believes he heard make an off color remark during his campaign. > Hardly a walk about AP, T-Dube.>> > > Tom, > > Here you go again, twisting words to suit your own arguments. I did not > "believe I heard an off-color remark." I had three people flat out say to > me that Asbury Park would be a better place if we just got all the blacks > out of town. I didn't "believe" I heard it, I did. Now, I do not think > that in any of my posts that I said that Asbury Park is a "racist" town. > However, I did and would continue to state that racism exists is Asbury > Park. This is a clear distinction and an important one. > > Peace, JWK > > Councilman Jim Keady > 1 Municipal Plaza > Asbury Park, NJ 07712 > TEL: 732.502.5196 > EM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.cityofasburypark.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of bluebishop82 > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 11:06 AM > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AsburyPark] T-Dube follow the Posts > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > How funny BB, Dan and Tom's Ice Cream, LOL funny...except, how > > appropriate it would be for Dan and Tom to > > put their money where there imaginative mouths are. > > First, we were referring to Dan S and me, not Dan J and me. > > Second - I have money invested in AP in real estate (not to mention > enormous amounts of time energy volunteering for three different > community boards). How about you? Your money where your mouth is? > > > >If things are so GREAT in Dan's Little City By The Sea he ought to > > come out of his bunker and prove it. Alas, similar to turning down > > Keady's invite to walk the streets, Dan and Tom will > > continue to write their fiction and ne'er step foot on those mean > >streets. > > First, Keady can walk around AP for the rest of his life and not > catch up to me being on Asbury's streets. > > Second, the only way you can conclude that I turned Jim down is by > not following the posts. Jim turned it down. The topic was whether > AP is a "racist town." My answer was no, Jim's was yes. Jim first > invited me to walk around AP find the racism. Knowing that would be > futile, I compared it to walking to the Shore to find mermaids (or > intelligent liberals). A light bulb went off in Jim's head that > walking around AP would not turn up racism (because I'm right, it > isn't a racist place) Jim turned it to an invite to talk to 3 people > he believes he heard make an off color remark during his campaign. > Hardly a walk about AP, T-Dube. > > Third, although you won't believe me, I feel a certain need to > protect our young councilman from himself. Just like I wouldn't let > him list names on this board of his constituents that he > believes "can't make an informed, intelligent decision," I also > won't take part in Jim publicly announcing that he categorizes his > constituents as a bunch of racists. Each would be an act of > political suicide (assuming the AP Press ever pays attention here) > and I won't take part in Jim doing that to himself (or us for that > matter - I'm no racist - any of you?). > > > > I have a question. In the interview with Vin Scelsa and Daniel > >Wolff, they talk about the Asbury riots. Wolff refers to riots > > as a rebellion, interestingly. He also says that the Asbury riots > >were 2 years after the riots that rocked American cities. > > I recall that the Asbury riots were going on at the same time as > >rioting in Newark, Watts, Detroit, Trenton and elsewhere. > > Who is correct. > > While AP vandalism was several years removed from the other cities > riots, you aren't wrong to put them in the same time frame as I > don't believe the general mood of the country had changed. That > being said it is a tricky question, because the AP vandalism didn't > have it's genesis in the mood of the country like the other places. > > >Wolff also relates a Springsteen story that has Bruce climbing a > >water tower and seeing the riots on Springwood and > > people on the beach. > > I hope Gary Wein asks Wolff in his interview if he knows which tower > that was. > > >But oh what a treat it would be to see a Kohrs Ice Cream > > on the boardwalk again in Asbury, there is one in Point Pleasant, > >but that's hardly a boardwalk. It's more like a bunch of boards. > > > I must respectfully disagree. Pt. Pleasant boardwalk rocks. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
