--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dan, with all due respect... you can attempt to water down the truth found in scripture if you like, but many people subscribe to it as truth. You wanna contend with me, thats fine. I am no body in the grand universal scheme of things. The unrepentant homosexual, the unrepentant heterosexual in adultery are on dangerous ground. I am not about to allow anyone to trite think, that the modern day phycho babble of a gene, or no choice, escaped God's infinite wisdom as he left his friend Abram and entered sodom and gommorah (sp) and allowed the city to be destoyed. Some think that happenned as a result of lack of hospitality, some think it happened because the inhabitants were sodomites. In the former, than Asbury may be brimstoned for the lack of hospitality where the mission's residents are effected by the latest zoning board ruling. In the later, either way, you are on troubled ground. Would I ever condone harming a gay person in the here and now, absolutely not, because violence is not my bag. Mario, just had to bring up historic events that quite frankly I thank God were straightened out because the whole episode, was false and embarrassing. To bring them up now 4 years after the fact was solely done to attempt to embarrass me, and also, if anyone was being pursuaded by my agruements and wanted to support JSRM, he wanted to destroy my credability all because he is gay, and the mission treats being gay, as a sin. All bible believing christians believe homosexuality is a sin. That's why there is so much rhetoric against the bible. Even Catholics have a problem with the bible as the inherent word of God, but it is an established religion and as such is protected. Yesterday, was not the first time Mario eluded to me and arrest. He did it on more than one occasion and as far back as months ago, the last time this whole thing got kicked around. This soes not surprise me, Michael Booth and others alligned with him like to tell these stories, because they are just medlers and political peddling wanna bes. Mario is gay and I was arrested under false pretences, so big deal. Me asking Mario is he was gay, was not bringing up lies that were told about him, it was a question. Do you think, that I care if Mario is gay. My doctor is a trans sexual, I hope I got that right. I don't go to the doctor because they were once female and now male or born male and now female, I go because they are a good doctor. To assume I hate gay people is totally ridiculous, and it's not even the issue. To me homosexuality is a sin. No worse or less worse than all the sin that is out there. I did not throw a stone and bash him, becasue he who is without sin can throw stones. I asked a question, and made it very clear my position that it is sin, just adultery is sin, they are sexual sins. You can argue all you want, you can call me names and tell me I went nuts for no reason these last days, this does not change eternity one bit. Nor does do Asbury Park justice. I don't know Mario, I don't care to know Mario. He likes to razz me, and has done so many times over the long haul here. I didnt just join this group. I have been here many years. I didn't just develop my theological position on homosexuality and adultery, I have had it for 20 years. Let's just say for arguements sake. I am right, and unrepentant sin puts someone in eternal damnation. Is it more compassionate to ignor your brothers sin and allow him to go to damnation, or is it more compassionate to confront them and at least let them walk away with questions that rightfully only God can answer for them. I would rather, have all of you think me an idiot, than stand before God having to answer, why didn't you contend with your neighbor while others were telling them "it's ok, be happy, do your thing, there is no God." ? My faith is in God and the word's of the bible, devined by the Holy Spirit. It flies in the face of organized religion and organized secular movements. I really am at peace with my faith and I am sure God to some extent finds me tolerable, after all I am still here in a town that has been trying to end my total existence for 20 years. That speaks volumns to me and many others, who actually think I just may be a pretty good minister. Will everyone, absolutely not. You can't please everyone. Nor do I care to. The issue isn't Mario, or me... the issue is the Jersey Shore rescue Mission, The Religious Land Use Act, gay marriage, redevelopment, November's election. These are the things that really matter. Taxes, corruption, gas prices, eternity, Terror, The War & poverty & freedom of religion and freedom from religion. You do not have to believe as me, but all be damned if I am not going to be allowed the same freedom to express my faith! This ends my good night message. Oh and by the way, cutting and pasteing this late night post and contending with me, don't waste your time. I won't engage in anyones, foolish twists and spins on this one. I was glad to meet Jack tonight, and surprising you Dan, well that just goes to show you, I can punk out with the best of them. My father is on town this week, with his best friend. Father Mike, who is a priest from Ireland. If you think I a radical minister, you should have been out with us earlier tonight - he had some wonderful counsel for me. Now I have to put my two pooches to sleep and get my father and his buddy from the Celtic Cottage before they drink up all the beer in Long Branch. Good night. God Bless Joe Torre! 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