Re: [asdf-devel] Re: NAMED-READTABLES

2014-03-16 Thread Attila Lendvai
>> I would like to forestall facile answers to the above claim, too. I >> don't just mean "SLIME would have to handle IN-READTABLE." SLIME would >> have to be fixed, yes, but also ELI, Allegro Composer, Hemlock (or >> whatever the CCL IDE is), LispWorks whatchamacallit, etc., etc. >> > True. Howev

Re: [asdf-devel] BUILD-OP

2014-03-16 Thread Faré
I've opened a bug on launchpad for the technical issue: Fix defsystem to accept strings as operation designators https://bugs.launchpad.net/asdf/+bug/1293292 I beg the maintainer to consider the technical issue for inclusion in 3.1.1, if not the policy issue of promoting the result as "default".

Re: [asdf-devel] Alternate default lisp system location

2014-03-16 Thread Faré
I've open the following bug on launchpad for this issue: A non-hidden default source tree https://bugs.launchpad.net/asdf/+bug/1293278 —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org A programming language is low level when its programs require attention to the irrel

Re: [asdf-devel] Make the CL syntax predictable

2014-03-16 Thread Faré
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Robert P. Goldman wrote: > PROPOSED NEXT STEPS: > > 1. A clear proposal for this modification be made. Right now the > details of the proposed modification are wrapped in a fairly opaque > discussion. The discussion is framed in terms that are either too vague

[asdf-devel] Re: NAMED-READTABLES

2014-03-16 Thread Faré
> I don't know enough to translate a darcs repo to git. I could probably > manage this, but tcr buried the NAMED-READTABLES repo somehow inside an > EDITOR-HINTS repo, and linked the two in some way I don't understand. > I have a script to do that somewhere on common-lisp.net. I actually already d

Re: [asdf-devel] BUILD-OP

2014-03-16 Thread Faré
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Robert P. Goldman wrote: >> Whichever makes sense for the given system, and that's the feature: >> the user doesn't have to know which newfangled operation the system is using, >> that will do the Right Thing™. >> Once again, the person who knows the Right Thing™

Re: [asdf-devel] Port of ASDF 3.1.0.94 to MKCL

2014-03-16 Thread Robert P. Goldman
Thank you very much! I look forward to merging and testing. Best, Robert

Re: [asdf-devel] Port of ASDF 3.1.0.94 to MKCL

2014-03-16 Thread Jean-Claude Beaudoin
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Robert P. Goldman wrote: > > > > On Mar 15, 2014, at 22:12, Faré wrote: > > > > Robert, can you handle the merge when JCB comes with a cleaned up patch? > > Sure. And I will run the tests. Unfortunately, my Linux test environment > has not been restored (indeed, i

Re: [asdf-devel] BUILD-OP

2014-03-16 Thread Robert P. Goldman
Faré wrote: > >> > Well, but consider this hypothetical person who doesn't know what's >> > going to happen and who isn't familiar with ASDF already. >> > >> > S/he types (asdf:make "foo") and *either* gets foo loaded into his/her >> > lisp image or an executable file gets dropped onto his/her

Re: [asdf-devel] Make the CL syntax predictable

2014-03-16 Thread Robert P. Goldman
PROPOSED NEXT STEPS: 1. A clear proposal for this modification be made. Right now the details of the proposed modification are wrapped in a fairly opaque discussion. The discussion is framed in terms that are either too vague "Make the CL syntax predictable" or too specific -- very particular p

[asdf-devel] NAMED-READTABLES

2014-03-16 Thread Robert P. Goldman
Faré wrote: >> > *This is partly my fault, but the current disarray of cl.net, the >> > library's position as part of an abortive EDITOR-HINTS master system, >> > and the previous maintainer's putting it into a revision control system >> > (darcs) that I don't use and don't understand are additiona

Re: [asdf-devel] Make the CL syntax predictable

2014-03-16 Thread Robert P. Goldman
Faré wrote: > The clean thing to do would be to use named-readtables and/or > cl-syntax, and have each file evaluate (in-readtable :foo) or have a > perform :around method or around-compile hook that does it for you. > > We could also support your doing (in-readtable :foo) only once for the > enti

Re: [asdf-devel] Port of ASDF 3.1.0.94 to MKCL

2014-03-16 Thread Robert P. Goldman
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 22:12, Faré wrote: > > Robert, can you handle the merge when JCB comes with a cleaned up patch? Sure. And I will run the tests. Unfortunately, my Linux test environment has not been restored (indeed, it's now just sitting in a box since our office move). So it would be