Salute Mahanta da I had to come back to you. You said something like this. ****But I don't think such answers will be forthcoming. Our friends here are more interested in having me submit to their inquisitions than answering questions to their proposals and ideas. I have gotten used to the idea however. I realize, I wouldn't be the lightning rod, if my arguments did NOT score any points. If they did not, they would not elicit the kind of reactions they usually do .That is reward enough for me to continue to serve as the designated punching bag of Assamnet****
As Shri Mridul Bhuya pointed out, we should give response to the valid points you have raised. I will give it a try-bhool hole raize xudhorai dibo. Going back to your valid points! ****That is the point I was trying to drive home; the ineffectiveness or more precisely the absence of realism in the various posts by netters who could expected to be far more result oriented than their proposals indicate. I don't devalue your good-will. That is all very good. But good-will or good-wishes sans realism will do little to cure that 'mohamari' that you all have been railing against.**** I am not sure whether it is a mohamari. But disease it is-and surely requires medication or therapy or operation or amputation. Rather than a killer disease it could be one of those embarrassing irritating conditions like Orxo or Kesumuri. Piles & Fistula! And if it falls in this category of disease, the treatment could be appropriate like a localized operation. And if that does not work and the symptoms keep on reappearing, another option could be to best leave it untreated so that people start living with the condition with sheer nonchalance, save some moments of irritating etchings. And after sometime it does not matter!! In my opinion the onus lies with all these groups. If they stick to their position and continue with the nuisance warfare then this three pronged approach of 1) armed operation by police/army etc, 2) wooing and intended/unintended swaying away of segments of people by developmental schemes and things like autonomous council etc and 3) total rejection by masses will eventually lead to their disappearance from the state. This entire 30 year old struggle will amount to much ado nothing. If there is a slightest sense of sincerity on the part of these groups then they should surrender without asking for any fat rehabilitation package. And all the money they have amassed (if they are at all in a position get back from Bangla bank) should be converted into a charity to be used for the cause of development of Assam and for boosting Assamese pride. Like sponsoring Assamese mountaineer for Mount Everest expedition etc. And as Mr. Mohan said they will be remembered as the greatest heroes of Assam forever. Thats much better than life in exile/oblivion or the SULFA tag. In the process they may with a set of intelligent second rung of demands get for Assam and Assamese something much concrete than the abstract independence. And once they come to mainstream and settle down, they can look forward to rekindling the hope for Purna Swaraj if they can sway people in their way. Remember Mr. Hagrama saying that BTC is a step towards separate state to be realised in 20 years. Politics or rhetoric-it came from a party chief sharing power in Dispur. To say that you need to have lots of guts, political muscle and may be populist support. Point I am driving home is that if you are serious about your goal, you would not be afraid of taking small steps. **** Yes, I do write a lot of critical things about India. But that is different from "HATE". And if you find those criticisms untrue, unfair or otherwise unwarranted, then all you need to demolish them, putting me in my place, is to point them out. Rebut. Refute. It is good for you to try that. Because you will need to do your homework to do so, and in the process will become more informed**** It is very difficult to be unbiased as well as critical without unconsciously hating the object of your criticism. How come same critical analysis, we have not seen when comes to ULFA? What we see instead is pitiable attempt to cover up their misdeeds which even their illustrious publicity secretary of yesteryears Siddhartha Phukan would not have attempted. Or is your stand-critical analysis of India but blind defence of ULFA. But generally one sided critical analysis can be construed as biasness and in extreme cases as hatred towards the object of critical analysis. ****I would not badger you on this, only because I know you mean well. But I also know very well where the ISI-paranoia amongst desis spring from. It has everything do with deeply-rooted Hindu /Muslim bigotries and animus so pervasive in north, central, west and south India, translated to ownership pretenses of Kashmir, never mind what the Kashmiris who call it home want, leading to the Pakistan/India conflicts that gave rise to ISI and Jihad and has escalated into today's Islamic and Hindu militancy. Assam and the contiguous states and Bengal , barring the Hindu Siletis displaced from today's B'desh,have been relatively free of that debilitating desi condition. Only in recent years, thanks to Hindian influences, compounded by the GoI propaganda to discredit ULFA, has this ISI paranoia begun to take root in Assam.**** Mahanta da-ki koise? Otitok pahori gol? Bhaxa andulonot bhaag luwa nasil neki? Assamese people were always paranoid since 1846(?) when Bengali was made the official language. Why? What was wrong with Bengali-specially the Sylheti kind? We could have lived with Assamese dubbed as a dialect of Bengali the way totally unintelligible Magahi and Kumauni are considered forms of Hindi or Sylheti (which could have been a separate language as a dialect-continuum between Assamese and Bengali) a form of deviant Bengali. It was our paranoia at that time stemming from our real or perceived threat to the linguistic identity which resulted in hate Bengali campaign. We did not need any coaching from any North Indian brothers at that time. Or did we? You will know better. So please dont say that Assamese did not have paranoia. Now the situation is that you board a rickshaw in Guwahati and tell the man to take you to Uzan Bazar, he will give you a blank look exposing his recent entry to the city and if you carry on the conversation with him further you realise how Assamese is spoken in the alien land Dhubri from which he claims to be. It is not about Moslem or Bengali, but the paranoia is stemming from this recent exodus of people with completely alien culture who unlike the previous generations of migrants are not in a mood to assimilate or forgo their traits. Instead of BDeshis if these recent migrants would have been Burmese or Nepalese, the reaction from the native people including Barpetiya speaking Muslims of sor area would have been the same. If 30-40% of the population would have been Burmese or Nepalese, same would have been dubbed as sarong or khukri menace. The changes due to this exodus are all too apparent. 30 years back Burka clad ladies were common sight in Delhi or in Hyderabad but not in Assam. So when you see such trends in Assam, you dont start believing that they are mutant species of the Assamese Muslims. I think you know that all the states of India agreed to make a sacrifice for the sake of Assam. No body is insisting on linguistic break-up of 2001 Indian census which has been officially kept secret. Neither ULFA nor AASU or any other peer group will dare to ask government to release the figure officially which will surely show a negative rise for Assamese speaking population. Once you attain certain threshold, you will be averse to the idea of assimilation and thats what may be happened during 2001. In 2001 census I think millions in Brahmaputra valley returned their original language and not Assamese as the mother tongue. Hence it suits every body to not to ask for the actual figures which will expose many myths on Assams population and language fronts. I would be grateful somebody amongst the Assam netters having link with bureaucracy could throw some light on the linguistic cover up of 2001 census. By the way Mahanta da, this paranoia amongst Assamese which led to formation of all those organizations like O Bha U Xaa, OXaXo to save the language from Bangla, manifested again amongst the indigenous tribal groups of Assam when the Bodos for the fear of assimilation into Assamese mainstream decided rather to settle for alien Devnagri than a familiar Assamese script. So ultimately bottom line is-do you still think this paranoia is something which has been there because of orchestration of communal Indian brothers or is very much home grown thing-Assamese becoming paranoid of Bengali, Bodos becoming paranoid of Assamese, Santhals becoming paranoid of Bodos and so on? In fact many older generation Bengalis would like to believe that Assamese identity and nationality were born out of paranoia and this latest bout of paranoia against ISI/BDeshi could be the last of uncomfortable stirrings of a population which will ultimately meet its nemesis which was denied to it during the partition 60 years back. ****I don't dispute the fact of ISI's dirty record. So is RAW's. But ISI cannot be THAT powerful. ISI today is the code-word for demonizing everything associated with Islam. And its cultivated fear is an essential GLUE to hold the tattered bonds of Indian nationalism together.**** How do you know it not that powerful? The fact that it can find sympathizer amongst huge migrant Muslim population in eastern India compared to RAWs obvious disadvantage on that front -does not that make ISI more potent and troublesome than RAW? ****Can you tell me, with a straight face that if ULFA disappeared today, tomorrow Assam's prosperity will take off the ground? That its problems will disappear like a bad dream?**** If ULFA disappeared today, Assam would have been as developed or underdeveloped as Orissa, Meghalaya or may be Tamil Nadu. I dont know how prosperous the state would have become, but one thing is the sure that people of Assam would not have worried about many day to day things which you do or take for granted like: Going to a watch a Bollywood movie (without fear of bomb blast); Riding is a bus (without fear of bomb blast); Go to Haflong (without fear of being abducted) and surely you dont want me to go on . Whether you call that prosperity or peace of mind-I am not sure. ***ut I am informed. And my information is not based on Indian propaganda or Assam establishment's propaganda.*** We would like to see the source of your information-whether they come directly from the revolutionaries or are crop of imagination of a fertile mind. ****It used to be that I too thought and spoke like you guys regarding ULFA at one time. But pretty soon I began to see, right here thru Assamnet what has been going on . And I dug deeper. More I sought, more I found. And thus my entire outlook changed to where it is today.**** We would be interested to know what was that which brought this radical transformation. I know you have an analytical mind-but to fuel the analysis you must have stumbled on something very revealing or startling to convert you to a supporter from detractor. Share that with us-please. ***That is why I wrote to Dilip Deka yesterday that people can and do change. It all depends on one's desire to seek the truths. One can take the position that he knows all he needs to know and remain there. Or can take the analytical approach and go wherever it may lead to. Choice is ours.*** May be many of us are ready to take the analytical approach. Just show us the path without being philosophical and abstract. ****Misguided is in the eye of the beholder. Misguided people also cannot see what has been going on in Assam. But being beneficiaries of the status quo, they seem to thing that is the best thing for the rest as well**** Leave aside the beneficiaries like me and YOU. Lets talk about the rest. How are you sure that rest are not in the mood to enjoy the benefit of status quo in form of say a job in public sector, an IT job in Hyderabad with a goal of one way ticket to Houston, education for children without Bandhs and bomb blasts and additional fringe benefits like reservation, scheduling, 6th schedule etc? How do you know the rest are clamouring for independence and not these materialistic aspirations? Have you seen any recent display of peoples inclination towards separation from India? Of course you may not point us to ULFA coz otherwise you will have to explain the appearance and positions of NDFB, KLO, UPDS, DHD, NSCN also who have eyes on the same piece of land. By the way are not the ULFA top brass the biggest beneficiary of the status quo? To start dialogue why do they have to ask for release of Mama, Khura, Peha? And if the GOI is ready to talk say on sovereignty also and ask ULFA to provide a map of the proposed area they have in mind. Will they be able to produce that for the fear of raising protestations from their mates like NDFB, KLO, UPDS, NSCN and other organizations like AASU, ABSU and in the process exposing the hollowness of their support base? So is not status quo best for them? ****You say ULFA LOST the support of local people. Are you suggesting they HAD support before? If they did WHY was it? And what happened that caused them to withdraw that support?**** They had support-because of their populist steps, extra judicial justices, disillusionment with AGP incarnation of AASU etc! It had nothing to do with the treaty of Yandaboo, dwelling on which would technically hand over upper Assam districts not to the independence seekers but to the descendents of King of Ava. Why they lost support? May be Assamese people have become wiser having seen it all. May be the revolutionaries were simply not inspiring enough-people need motivation-is not it. It can use couple of thousands of extorted money to recruit a bomb deliverer or a mercenary, but you will need enough of logical ammunition to sustain belief of and to get support from 26 million people of the state. ****Again, 'foreign' and 'evil' are words to fit ones propaganda needs and to devalue the humanity of others. When you speak of ISI's evil, you don't speak of RAW's evil, as if it does not exist, or cannot exist. Why Mohan? Where is your 'fair and balanced' outlook here?**** With the demography as it stands, can you honestly say Guptaji, Subramanian led RAW can be that pervasive in Pakistans to bring some internal turmoil. They may have the same evil intent but not the same strategic advantage. ****Few months ago, I spent a lot of time articulating almost exactly these issues, albeit from MY perspective, in my words, with the hope that the requests and challenges were made with a sincerity of purpose, to engage in a constructive dialogue to help people set some goals for Assam govt's. betterment . But they were not. In fact it became abundantly clear from the arguments made for their rejection, some so poorly contrived that they verged on insults to the intelligence of ordinary people. The real intent could have been best described as 'apwnar naak-kati xotinir jatra bhongo korar proyax'**** Here Mahanta da-by any chance are you referring to my condemnation of your treatise? There were quite a few good points-I did admit if you remember. But I told it was no good as you could not say anything on the resources part, how governance will be different from present one. All you presented was an idealised Indian constitution. In another mail I will for your benefit reproduce some of my numerous rebuttals which you never clarified but seem to have rejected as poorly contrived. ***That argument is another propaganda designed by Indians and Indian apologist Oxomiyas. How will you answer to the question of Assam's condition BEFORE ULFA happened? Why was it so?*** Before ULFA happened, Assams condition was good or bad is a subjective question. But based on personal experience, I can at least tell you that Assams condition before 1979 was PEACEFUL. And in hindsight peace can be equated with Good-is not it? ****If not, what are your recommendations? What do YOU bring to the table? How do you see it resolved?**** For a change lets look it from an independent seeker like you or Mr. Challenge Brahmas viewpoints. NDFB is also projected to be a potent terrorist outfit. They also have same set of demand. Imagine you are not US based Chandan Mahanta but Mr. Challenge Brahma from Udalguri .Now from your new persona, please tell us: Would you agree to your piece of land going to ULFAs independent Asom? Or would you prefer to stay in Assam as part of India. Or if it is independence from India is what forced upon you-why not NDFBs independent Bodoland for you? It is a multiple choice question for Challenge. Can you help Mr. Brahma out of this quagmire and then we will say how we want it solved? ***ULFA maybe all things you attempt to portray them as, and even worse, but HOW does that solve the problem?*** As I said earlier, the onus is on the group. They should respect the public sentiment. Otherwise people of Assam will start to live life with them as minor irritant. And they should be ready for violent reprisal from public if they surface amongst Assamese or for that matter amongst anybody. ****Just like you all, I too want the conflict to end. But not on YOUR ( by this I include all of you who have vented your clueless frustrations ) terms, a surrender to Indian interests. I would like to see ULFA obtain for Assam the rights to re-form its governance to a modern, truly democratic state with a rule of law and the right to have full control over its resources****. Thats an ultimate faith and honour you have bestowed on the organization-your call Mahanta da. We may also join you if you can you please give us some comfort (being fence sitters and clueless, we need to be assured all the time) by showing that the group is not as clueless as us about the state it is going to establish. Remember the points I raised about clash of interest with the Teen paati mates, geographical area, official language, religion, land rights of Kalita of Nalbari, Gogoi of Pani dihing etc. Mahanta da-I would say you should relax-as the onus is not on you to fabricate things for them. You blind adherence to the group is a service enough. ****Those of you who are satisfied with your vision of an Assam as an Indian colony to be exploited by outsiders with a few in Assam sharing in the loot, as things are today, that is your burden***. As far as exploitation is concerned-it is matter of perception Mahanta da. You have to see Assam from Kerala or Bihar and not from America to comment on that. To a Bihari or Bengali from WB we may look like a pampered lot of banana mouthing morons. And as I said many times before whats the guarantee that those in the helm of affair in the new set up will not indulge in lootings and exploitation? Dont you remember the rise and fall of about ULFAs distant cousin Au Ga Pa? ***There are those of us who are not handicapped by such a mindset, will continue to speak up for Assam's rights.*** By all means Mahanta da. Every body will gain if you do it as a pragmatic Assamese but not as a blind follower of the clueless lot. These were my response to your valid points. Let people like Mr. Bhuya judge the response to valid points you raised. On your part, if you really feel you have to reply, we will be obliged if give your reply to queries I raised (which I am again reproducing below) 1) Should ULFA take small step with some second rung of demands or maintain the status-quo? 2) Being uncomfortable seeing a perceived linguistic, ethnic threat-is it paranoia? And if so, is it something new for Assamese? 3) Does ISI not have more capability to foment trouble in Assam than RAW in Sind? 4) If ULFA, NDFB, UPDS all disappeared tomorrow without giving independence to the people, will Assam not be a bit more peaceful saved some bruised egos? 5) What was it which you stumbled upon which converted you to a supporter from detractor? 6) Do you receive the mouthpiece to get a different insight which all of us are deprived of? 7) With the demography as it stands, can you honestly believe that RAW can be that pervasive in Pakistans to bring some internal turmoil? 8) Mr. Challenge Brahmas viewpoint on ULFAs independent Asom! 9) How do you see the resolution to this situation where all the mates clamour for same piece of land? 10) The new government you have in mind, will it allow Mr Gogoi and Shri Das to settle in NC Hills? Please try to give reply to above adha kuri prosno. 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