Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006 -ISKCON's Gita interpretation & white skinned Brahmins

2006-03-28 Thread umesh sharma
I am just trying to say what it is without adding or creating anything new. All the fingers are not equal. RB - Original Message - From: umesh sharma To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006 -ISKCON's Gita interpretation & white skinned Brahmins

2006-03-28 Thread umesh sharma
Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006Rajen-da,   I guess you are right when you compare with the Buddha ideal - that all humans have equal potential - and that message does get lost when you say that some peopl

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-28 Thread Rajen Barua
ism all men are created equal, it is men rather who is making it not so.   That is the difference.   RB - Original Message - From: umesh sharma To: Barua25 ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, Ma

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-28 Thread umesh sharma
es and comment. Rajenda  - Original Message - From: umesh sharma To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006Rajen-da,   Even this verse by itself doesnot say that Brahmin is by birt

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-24 Thread Barua25
: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006 Rajen-da,   Even this verse by itself doesnot say that Brahmin is by birth - it merely states that Brahmins are intellectuals (from head or

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-23 Thread umesh sharma
2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006I do recall that there is such a verse but I do not recall seeing it in Geeta or that Krishna said it.   UmeshRajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I will have to read the verse in detail. I think Krishna states bothways:

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-23 Thread Rajen Barua
I think it is the Gita. I will check Rajenda - Original Message - From: umesh sharma To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006 I do recall that there is such

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-23 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen Barua Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006Rajen-da rote whether Gita would have to be revised to remove casteist remarks - I do not recall any!! The only ones defining caste are in chapter 18 shlokas 41-44 -which a

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-23 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Umesh,   I think no attempt should ever be made to re-write history or religious text. Whether we think they were bad or good, should be taken from a different perspective (and maybe a pinch of salt).   --Ram da  On 3/23/06, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rajen-da rote whether Gita would

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-23 Thread Rajen Barua
.   Can you check if above is true.   Rajenda         - Original Message - From: umesh sharma To: Ram Sarangapani ; Rajen Barua Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006 Rajen-da rote whether

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-23 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da rote whether Gita would have to be revised to remove casteist remarks - I do not recall any!! The only ones defining caste are in chapter 18 shlokas 41-44 -which are not basd on birth - but on gunas or a person's nature and work or deeds. Manusmriti does perhaps needs to be overhauled - by

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
A cursory reading of the VHP message is interesting. The fact they are urging the rejection of castes is a good thing. But their reasons " in the interest of consolidating Hindu unity to fight conversions and "Jehadi" terror." is passe. The shadow of casteism must be erdicated from Hinduism. A go

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-20 Thread umesh sharma
let them rewrite it first to remove casteist referneces. later on the aggression part could be taken care of. nowadys nobody is touching it at all - just like none is thinking of revising Quoran to remove references inciting violence.   umshRajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Vishwa

Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20, 2006

2006-03-20 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Hindu Press International March 20, 2006 >Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Grama Koil Poojarigal Peravai has rejected varnashrama (system of four castes)   Does it mean they will revise the Gita, the Manusmriti and all those Hindu scirptures now?   >varnashrama dharma, supposedly wri