Hi Himen-da:
> Many years ago, I saw someone using the term "Civilian Invasion by Bangladesh" and got scared.
*** Scare is a state of mind. We can manipulate ourselves to be
scared of little children too, if we so choose to, or if we are messed
up enough. I know a lot of my fellow suburban Americans who are
paranoid of driving to downtown. But it is a self-induced
condition.
Would you care to share WHY you got so scared of the 'lungi
menace'? Maybe talking about it will help you get over your phobia.
Oh, yes, it may provoke unpleasant comments, but that too could be
therapeutic, if you come with an open mind. Unfortunately when someone
approaches this group with an intent to preach, my observation has
been that you might as well go talk to a blank wall.
Oh there have been instances of the aspiring preacher
attempting to masquerade his mission as an open give and take , or
that attempt to feed 'maas' by calling it 'jiji' ( like one of my
reminders that offended you). But the pretensions show up under the
strains of the first challenges, and it usually is downhill from then
on. The defensiveness, the denials and protestations, the hurt
feelings, the strike-backs; the symptoms are classic and
unmistakable.
( How do I know all this ? A good old friend , a fellow
Jokaisukiya, Dr. Tilok
Hatimuria, a practising Large Animal Shrink from Dogpatch,
Arkansas ; he taught me everything about the large animal mind,
four-legged and two).
>Even when I posted "there is NO GOD in Rik Veda" there had
been no response ! No curiosity !!
God is a very personal thing. Your attempts at making it a public
issue to debate or to teach the ignoramus, is unlikely to draw people
into it. But there are instances in which many netters join in verbal
jousting over God, religion, and everything taboo too.It is
usually so when it is an intellectual exercise, not a political ploy.
It depends on the context. The chances of prodding someone into it, by
design, are slim to none.
Heaven ( it is just a manner of speech now) knows I disagree and
debate with netters often on a variety of issues. Some participate,
and many don't. There are many reasons. One is that not all are
articulate enough to do justice to delivering a point of view that
they may hold -- an universal condition, not limited to
kharkhowas or markhowas ( even though I sometimes present it as unique
to us, as a ploy) But that does not mean they are not intelligent
enough to read and understand what is going on.
They were not born yesterday, like I told you that I wasn't,
another thing that offended you.
That understanding has been very useful for me in communicating
with them. In spite of the fireworks I have had the notoriety of
generating time to time, they have not chased me out of town--YET;
because I never try to insult their intelligence.
>I always write without personal attack, and without throwing "adjectives" on correspondents.
*** Often people use those adjectives to drive home a point. If
it appears not to sink in ( density of the target matter is always a
factor) they get more and more strident. Sweetness and honey laced
prose, by and of itself, is no protection against those adjectives, if
they are a foil for a hidden or thinly veiled agenda.
How do I know? You can say I wrote the book on it :-).
But there ARE boundaries! Mercifully, most of us know WHEN NOT
to cross them. Newcomers miss the culture every now-and-then. They
do get an opportunity to learn and mend their ways. Netters are quite
forgiving. There have been a few incorrigible ones amongst us however.
But they disappear by themselves. A few rare cases had to be shown the
door too.
>I still appeal to you, as an old
friend, to give up your anti-India approach.
*** That 'anti-Indian' stick, Himen-da, is a much abused and
useless device. Its use is widespread amongst the immature, the
inarticulate, the sanctimonious, the fascists and the religious
zealots and the clueless of India, just like it is so in the
USA. Similarly with that anti-American smear, so prevalent in the
far-right talk show circuit and the Bible-belt sermons.
Thoughtful people would attempt to understand WHERE that
"anti-India approach"
springs from. They would attempt to learn if it is a CAUSE or a
SYMPTOM.( Here I speak from FIRST HAND experiences. I have been
excoriated for MY 'anti-Indian'-ness
more times than anybody else I know.)
And no amount of appeals, be it on grounds of old-friendships, or
debts to Bharat-Mata's graces, or rewards of patriotism or
what-have-you, would change anything, until those CAUSES get addressed
and resolved.
I thought you are enough of a realist to realize that, more so
after three decades in the USA as a practising engineer. But there is
always time to learn new tricks :-).
Regards,
c
At 6:52 AM -0500 1/31/06, Himendra Thakur wrote:
Dear Mukul,
You are right. I am really pausing to think why nobody is answering. But, what I wrote were not fantasies. Many years ago, I saw someone using the term "Civilian Invasion by Bangladesh" and got scared.
Even when I posted "there is NO GOD in Rik Veda" there had been no response ! No curiosity !!
I always write without personal attack, and without throwing "adjectives" on correspondents.
I still appeal to you, as an old friend, to give up your anti-India approach. Who is this Baba Ramdeo, anyway ???
With the best,
Himendra
----- Original Message -----From: mc mahantTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: assam@assamnet.orgSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:38 AMSubject: RE: [Assam] Civilian Invasion by BangladeshHimen,
Have you paused to think why nobody is replying to your fantasies?
Could it be that they all think you offer nothing but garbage?
Cool off!
Maybe join Baba Ramdeo's Ashram at somewhere.
Really!
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