Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread David de Jongh
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Re: OPSYN self execution

2013-02-07 Thread Jon Perryman
The problem is the RELDC OPSYN. You don't have an opcode or an OPSYN for RELDC so why are you undefining an opcode that is not defined? I believe you actually want DC OPSYN REALDC which will revert DC back to the real opcode. I think (not positive) that DC OPSYN will cause unknown opcode for DC.

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread B V
How do I get off this listserv? On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:03 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > What I wrote was: > > | The question > > || Were once SVC's ok, and now they are not preferred? > > | could be colored naif, but it is an entirely legitimate one, and the > answer is yes. > > It reflected my

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread John Gilmore
What I wrote was: | The question || Were once SVC's ok, and now they are not preferred? | could be colored naif, but it is an entirely legitimate one, and the answer is yes. It reflected my view that, while Lindy's question had been condescended to, it was in fact an "entirely legitimate" one.

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: > That is double what Mr. Relson said, and people still talk about how great > Canetello's books is. > > I asked a simple, honest question, and people turn it into some sort of > attack on ... I'm just too easy. I am just curious. Take whatev

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread Lindy Mayfield
That is double what Mr. Relson said, and people still talk about how great Canetello's books is. I asked a simple, honest question, and people turn it into some sort of attack on ... I'm just too easy. I am just curious. Take whatever shots at me you like if that make you feel good about your

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread retired mainframer
My copy of Cannatello is dated 1999. A lot has changed in 14 years. And the index shows more than a few pages dealing with the PC instruction and PC routines. I didn't think water cooled machines were still supported. :>: -Original Message- :>: From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: > Mr. Gilmore I would consider a "friend" until he tells me otherwise. For > each of his erudite tit there is my inane tat. It takes two to tango. > Piazzolla is my favorite. > > Cannatello tells how to write an SVC, and his book is relative

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Mr. Gilmore I would consider a "friend" until he tells me otherwise. For each of his erudite tit there is my inane tat. It takes two to tango. Piazzolla is my favorite. Cannatello tells how to write an SVC, and his book is relatively new, and mentions nothing about PC routines. So my questi

Automatic reply: OPSYN self execution

2013-02-07 Thread Steve Hazzard
I'm currently out of the office with no access to email. I'll reply to your note upon my return. Have a great day, Steve

Re: OPSYN self execution

2013-02-07 Thread Bodoh John Robert [Contractor]
Sorry it has taken so long to get back to this but I haven't had the time. I still cannot get the code to undefine the DC macro. As you can see, after the RELDEL macro is issued, the DC statement should use the assembler DC instruction but it still invokes the RELDC macro. I don't know what I

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread Hall, Keven
Ah yes, but who can match the weary erudition embodied in his "curmudgeon's curmudgeon" style? Keven Hall -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Stokes Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 13:52 To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@L

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread David Stokes
It's just JG's usual style, first the insult, then the condescending remark, and if you stay with it a (maybe*) useful comment ("yes"). (*If it hadn't been said several times already.) It's always somehow wonderful to hear that there are still people now trying to learn this stuff. -Urspr

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread Lindy Mayfield
If that color is mauve, and if a person such as I who asks naïve questions is indeed naïf, then point taken. :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:08 PM To: ASSEMBL

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread John Gilmore
The question | Were once SVC's ok, and now they are not preferred? could be colored naif, but it is an entirely legitimate one, and the answer is yes. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: SVC 34

2013-02-07 Thread Peter Relson
>Is there ever a "need" to write an SVC? There are few reasons that come to mind, and none that are likely truly needed outside of the operating system. >Or to put it another way, is there sometimes a need to get >OS services from a problem state program like in an SVC? Yes >And if so, are PC r