Re: Structured programing macros for MVS 3.8?

2020-06-05 Thread Pieter Wiid
As far as I know, the HLASM Toolkit macros are based on Concept 14. We used Concept 14 in the 80's, and I even developed extensions to it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Doug Wegscheid Sent: 04 June 2020 23:17

Re: Convert *signed* EBCDIC to packed decimal

2020-06-05 Thread Dave Wade
Seymour, As a demonstrator of the "baby computer" replica at Manchester I would say that it seems there was not much to choose between the two, if not in tube versus delay line then in terms of overall system reliability. But of course the Delay Line was much more compact than a Williams tube so mu

Re: Convert *signed* EBCDIC to packed decimal

2020-06-05 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List l...@listserv.uga.edu> On Behalf Of robi...@dodo.com.au > Sent: 05 June 2020 00:39 > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Convert *signed* EBCDIC to packed decimal > > On 2020-06-05 08:24, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Th

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Sorta, kinda. IBM calls them Vector instructions, but they're limited to a quadword. The term SIMD normally implies a greater degree of parallelism or streaming. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
IBM has "Vector" instructions, but the size of a vector is limited to one quadword. Usefull, but not what you normally think of as SIMD. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Gary Weinhold
You may find some of the SHARE presentations useful. I used SIMD z os share as keywords. On 2020-06-05 7:11 a.m., Seymour J Metz wrote: IBM has "Vector" instructions, but the size of a vector is limited to one quadword. Usefull, but not what you normally think of as SIMD. -- Shmuel (Seymour J

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Well, PLO is certainly an example. But the relatively recent Transaction instructions greatly expand this. On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 04:56:53 + Ze'ev Atlas <01774d97d104-dmarc-requ...@listserv.uga.edu> wrote: :>I admit being away from the mainframe for long time.  Most of my work is on Solar

Re: Mercury Delay Lines

2020-06-05 Thread Robin Vowels
- Original Message - From: "Dave Wade" To: Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 7:39 PM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List On Behalf Of robi...@dodo.com.au Sent: 05 June 2020 00:39 To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2020-06-05 08:24, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Th

Re: Convert *signed* EBCDIC to packed decimal

2020-06-05 Thread Robin Vowels
From: "Seymour J Metz" To: Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 9:09 PM I quoted the time for the model 50. Then why didn't you write "The 360/50 cycle time was 2 microseconds."? accidental omission. The info I obtained from a friend (for confirmation) where the context was the model 50. --- Thi

Re: MERCURY DELAY LINES

2020-06-05 Thread Robin Vowels
- Original Message - From: "Dave Wade" Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Convert *signed* EBCDIC to packed decimal As a demonstrator of the "baby computer" replica at Manchester I would say that it seems there was not much to choose between the two, if not in tube versu

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, Wikipedia says "It describes computers with multiple processing elements that perform the same operation on multiple data points simultaneously.", which is how I recall the term being used, and those don't match. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 __

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Dan Greiner
Although it does actually access multiple data items, PERFORM LOCK OPERATION (PLO) really doesn't qualify as a SIMD instruction (see my PLO screed below). Seymour's reference to the Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIMD) is about as adequate a definition as any I've seen. As I reca

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
The S/370 PoOps mentions the vector facility and says "Vector operations are described in the publication IBM System/370 Vector Operations, SA22-7125." You can download it from http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/vectorFacility/SA22-7125-3_Vector_Operations_Aug88.pdf -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz h

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/5/2020 12:15 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: The S/370 PoOps mentions the vector facility and says "Vector operations are described in the publication IBM System/370 Vector Operations, SA22-7125." You can download it from http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/vectorFacility/SA22-7125-3_Vector_Operat

Re: Does the z architecture have something like the SIMD instructions

2020-06-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, I know. Please review the history of this thread. Dan brought up the old vector facility ("As I recall, IBM's original implementation of vector instructions appeared as an optional extension to ESA/390, but these were never part of the standard architecture defined in the PoO.") and I was c