Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread John Gilmore
I going through my technical books I found that I have an extra, excellent-condition copy of Advanced assembler language and MVS interfaces, Wiley 1991. The fifth person who sends me his|her mailing address gets it postage free. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Kurt LeBesco
Kurt LeBesco 3 berncliff ave Albany NY 12208 On Jan 2, 2014 3:34 PM, "John Gilmore" wrote: > I going through my technical books I found that I have an extra, > excellent-condition copy of > > Advanced assembler language and MVS interfaces, Wiley 1991. > > The fifth person who sends me his|her mai

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Kurt LeBesco
Again On Jan 2, 2014 3:36 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > Kurt LeBesco > 3 berncliff ave > Albany NY 12208 > On Jan 2, 2014 3:34 PM, "John Gilmore" wrote: > >> I going through my technical books I found that I have an extra, >> excellent-condition copy of >> >> Advanced assembler language and MVS in

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Kurt LeBesco
3 times On Jan 2, 2014 3:39 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > Again > On Jan 2, 2014 3:36 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > >> Kurt LeBesco >> 3 berncliff ave >> Albany NY 12208 >> On Jan 2, 2014 3:34 PM, "John Gilmore" wrote: >> >>> I going through my technical books I found that I have an extra, >>> exce

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Kurt LeBesco
4 times On Jan 2, 2014 3:39 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > Again > On Jan 2, 2014 3:36 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > >> Kurt LeBesco >> 3 berncliff ave >> Albany NY 12208 >> On Jan 2, 2014 3:34 PM, "John Gilmore" wrote: >> >>> I going through my technical books I found that I have an extra, >>> exce

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Kurt LeBesco
5 times On Jan 2, 2014 3:39 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > Again > On Jan 2, 2014 3:36 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > >> Kurt LeBesco >> 3 berncliff ave >> Albany NY 12208 >> On Jan 2, 2014 3:34 PM, "John Gilmore" wrote: >> >>> I going through my technical books I found that I have an extra, >>> exce

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Kurt LeBesco
It is Jan 2 not Apr 1 right? On Jan 2, 2014 3:39 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > Again > On Jan 2, 2014 3:36 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote: > >> Kurt LeBesco >> 3 berncliff ave >> Albany NY 12208 >> On Jan 2, 2014 3:34 PM, "John Gilmore" wrote: >> >>> I going through my technical books I found that I ha

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Shaw
Glad you did not say the hundredth person... Mike Shaw MVS/QuickRef Support Group Chicago-Soft, Ltd. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:34 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > I going through my technical books I found that I have an extra, > excellent-condition copy of > > Advanced assembler language and MVS inte

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Fred van der Windt
Well, I guess your still just the first person even though you sent your address several times...Sent from my new iPadOn Jan 2, 2014, at 21:43, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote:It is Jan 2 not Apr 1 right?On Jan 2, 2014 3:39 PM, "Kurt LeBesco" wrote:AgainOn Jan 2, 2014

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-01-02 13:45, Fred van der Windt wrote: > Well, I guess your still just the /first/ person even though you sent your > address several times... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonia_dilemma (Should have disqualified anyone who sent to LISTSERV.) -- gil

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread John Gilmore
Cliff McNeill gets the book, which I'll put into the mail on Saturday after we've dug out from under a mini-blizzard---just over a foot of snow and still falling---here in Ashland. I should have liked to reward Kurt LeBesco's persistence, but I did say 'person' not 'message'. John Gilmore, Ashlan

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread John Gilmore
As a known advocate of metric units I've been rebuked for writing about "a foot of snow". I should of course have written "30.48 cm of snow" instead. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Ray Mansell
I, for one, am totally impressed that you are able to measure snow depth to an accuracy of one ten-thousandth of a metre! Ray Mansell On 1/2/2014 16:34, John Gilmore wrote: As a known advocate of metric units I've been rebuked for writing about "a foot of snow". I should of course have written

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-01-02 14:46, Ray Mansell wrote: > I, for one, am totally impressed that you are able to measure snow depth > to an accuracy of one ten-thousandth of a metre! > Works like this: 501 $ units 2411 units, 71 prefixes, 33 nonlinear units You have: 1 ft You want: cm * 30.48 / 0.

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Tony Thigpen
Just wondering, what position did my name come in? :-) Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: John Gilmore Sent: 01/02/2014 04:27 PM Cliff McNeill gets the book, which I'll put into the mail on Saturday after we've dug out from under a mini-blizzard---just over a foot of snow and stil

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread John Gilmore
On 1/2/14, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Just wondering, what position did my name come in? :-) > > Tony Thigpen Tony, You were fourth. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread John Gilmore
The sequence of the early responses to my offer was: Kurt LeBesco Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:36 PM Kurt LeBesco Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM Kurt LeBesco Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM Kurt LeBesco Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM Kurt LeBesco Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM Kurt LeBesco Thu

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Tony Thigpen
Even though I did not receive the book, thanks for offering it and sending to someone. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: John Gilmore Sent: 01/02/2014 06:06 PM On 1/2/14, Tony Thigpen wrote: Just wondering, what position did my name come in? :-) Tony Thigpen Tony, You were

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-02 Thread Duffy Nightingale
Tony Thicken. You have the same name as a great jazz drummer IIRC. Happy New Year to all the Mainframers! Duffy > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 18:35:22 -0500 > From: t...@vse2pdf.com > Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Even t

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread Duffy Nightingale
: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book Tony Thicken. You have the same name as a great jazz drummer IIRC. Happy New Year to all the Mainframers! Duffy > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 18:35:22 -0500 > From: t...@vse2pdf.com > Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book > To: ASSEMBLER

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread Ward Able, Grant
ginal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 11:35 PM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book Even though I did not receive the book, thanks for offer

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread John P Kalinich
John, I have to compliment you on your graciousness and generosity. Regards, John K From: John Gilmore To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: 01/02/2014 02:36 PM Subject:Carmine Cannatello's book Sent by:IBM Mainframe Assembler List I going through my tech

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread McNeill,Cliff
As the contest winner, I am certainly thankful for Mr. Gilmore's generosity. I will always cherish this book! Cliff McNeill From: John Gilmore To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: 01/02/2014 02:36 PM Subject: Carmine Cannatello's book Sent by:IBM

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:57:13 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >You have: 1 ft >You want: cm >* 30.48 >/ 0.032808399 That's how the conversion is done. I think that Ray's point was that we don't know the precision of "a foot of snow" in this case. If it was given as 12 inches, it might

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread Ray Mansell
Indeed, my post was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. My British sense of humour often gets me in trouble here in the US. Ray... On 1/3/2014 11:18, Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:57:13 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote: You have: 1 ft You want: cm * 30.48 / 0.032808399 Tha

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread John McKown
That's why I "quality" my measurements with phrases such as "kinda, sorta, like" and "somewhere about". On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Ray Mansell wrote: > Indeed, my post was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. My British sense of > humour often gets me in trouble here in the US. > > Ray... > >

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-03 Thread DASDBILL2
I think John really meant "a metric foot" of snow had fallen.  See "metric foot" on Wikipedia for more details. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: "Tom Marchant" To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 10:18:37 AM Sub

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Gray Gregory
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of McNeill,Cliff Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:29 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book As the contest winner, I am certainly thankful for Mr. Gilm

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Lost
@irs.gov > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu] > On Behalf Of McNeill,Cliff > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:29 AM > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu > Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book > >

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tony Thigpen
AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book As the contest winner, I am certainly thankful for Mr. Gilmore's generosity. I will always cherish this book! Cliff McNeill From: John Gilmore To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: 01/

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Ford
essage- >> From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu] >> On Behalf Of McNeill,Cliff >> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:29 AM >> To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu >> Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book >&

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Lost
A9-331, TOD 0630-1500 > >> Office - Mon, Tues, Wed - 240-613-1660 > >> Telework - Thur, Fri - 240-482-7349 > >> Email - gregory.g...@irs.gov > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto: > ASSEMBLER-LIS

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tony Thigpen
Of McNeill,Cliff Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:29 AM To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book As the contest winner, I am certainly thankful for Mr. Gilmore's generosity. I will always cherish this book! Cliff McNeill From: John Gilmore To:

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Lost
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Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tony Thigpen
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Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Lost
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Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/15/2014 2:17 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: (Most Mainframe assembler programmers did time as a COBOL programmer.) Really? My other "old school" mainframe languages are FORTRAN and PL/I. No COBOL. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tony Thigpen
Well, I did say "most". :-) Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Ed Jaffe Sent: 01/15/2014 05:28 PM On 1/15/2014 2:17 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: (Most Mainframe assembler programmers did time as a COBOL programmer.) Really? My other "old school" mainframe languages are FORTRAN and P

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2014-01-15 17:17, Tony Thigpen wrote: (Most Mainframe assembler programmers did time as a COBOL programmer.) Interesting assertion. The majority of systems programmers I know did not come from an applications programming background. Personally, I've only written one COBOL program since unive

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tony Thigpen
Are you saying that all assembler programmers (including those on the Assembler-List) are only for Systems Programmers? I am sure there are a lot of assembler application programmers here also. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Gord Tomlin Sent: 01/15/2014 05:53 PM On 2014-01-15

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Mike Shaw
I started as an Assembler application programmer 37 years ago. No COBOL at all, ever. Mike Shaw MVS/QuickRef Support Chicago-Soft, Ltd On Jan 15, 2014 6:04 PM, "Tony Thigpen" wrote: > Are you saying that all assembler programmers (including those on the > Assembler-List) are only for Systems Pro

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2014-01-15 18:03, Tony Thigpen wrote: Are you saying that all assembler programmers (including those on the Assembler-List) are only for Systems Programmers? Nope. I am sure there are a lot of assembler application programmers here also. Maybe, but the majority of the conversations here ap

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/15/2014 3:03 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Are you saying that all assembler programmers (including those on the Assembler-List) are only for Systems Programmers? I am sure there are a lot of assembler application programmers here also. I came through applications programming ... not systems pro

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book Are you saying that all assembler programmers (including those on the Assembler-List) are only for Systems Programmers? I am sure there are a lot of assembler application programmers here also. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Gord Tomlin Sen

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Kirk Talman
I started as an EAM operator in 61, the scientific user/programmer in Fortran and then taught self ASM-F. then taught self Cobol followed by PL/I RPG Was about to go to MVT internals to be trained to be sysprog when I went into full time ASM. Along the way did VTAM and wrote a testing "app"

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Ford
Operations into systems programming Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Jan 15, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Gord Tomlin > wrote: > >> On 2014-01-15 17:17, Tony Thigpen wrote: >> (Most Mainframe assembler programmers did time as a COBOL programmer.) > > Interesting assertion. The majorit

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
v.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:27 PM > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book > > On 1/15/2014 3:03 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > Are you saying that all assembler programmers (including those on t

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Lost
Same here, Computer Ops, Production control and then into System Admin. I say admin because I don't actually code anything. Just JCL, SMP/e and some rexx. Maybe one day I can count myself among the few and chosen true Sysprogs :-p On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > Operations

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread zMan
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > (Most Mainframe assembler programmers did time as a COBOL programmer.) (*Many *mainframe *applications *assembler programmers did time as a COBOL programmer.) There, I fixed it for you.

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Ford
Kirk, You road to systems sounds like mine Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Kirk Talman wrote: > > I started as an EAM operator in 61, the scientific user/programmer in > Fortran and then taught self ASM-F. then taught self Cobol followed by > PL/

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-16 Thread Ken Brick
On 16/01/2014 10:03 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Are you saying that all assembler programmers (including those on the Assembler-List) are only for Systems Programmers? I am sure there are a lot of assembler application programmers here also. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Gord Toml

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-16 Thread John Parke
I have a 1999 edition of the book (2nd edition). Good book. A little dated nowadays.

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-17 Thread DASDBILL2
- From: "Tim Lost" To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:15:05 PM Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book Same here, Computer Ops, Production control and then into System Admin. I say admin because I don't actually code anything. Just JCL,

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-17 Thread Scott Ford
ay, January 15, 2014 6:15:05 PM > Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book > > Same here, Computer Ops, Production control and then into System Admin. I > say admin because I don't actually code anything. Just JCL, SMP/e and some > rexx. Maybe one day I can count myself amon

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-17 Thread DASDBILL2
BLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:15:05 PM > Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book > > Same here, Computer Ops, Production control and then into System Admin. I > say admin because I don't actually code anything. Just JCL, SMP/e

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-17 Thread Mark Boonie
From: "Scott Ford" > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:28:54 AM > Subject: Re: Carmine Cannatello's book > > Bill, > > Who makes FORMAC ? Haven't heard of that one. > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com >

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-17 Thread Scott Ford
with RPG. FORMAC was > a cool superset of PL/1 that supported variables with thousands of decimal > places of accuracy. > Bill Fairchild > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tim Lost" > To: ASSEMBLER-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sent: Wednesday, January 1

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book

2014-01-17 Thread John Gilmore
FORMAC, of which there are both FORTRAN and PL/I versions, is the work of Jean Sammet and an IBM group working under her. My copy of the original FORTRAN documentation is dated 1962, but much more work was done later. FORMAC, along with some LISP-based formula-manipulation packages, is still in s

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FORMAC (was: Carmine Cannatello's book)

2014-01-17 Thread John Ehrman
FORMAC was a symbolic computation, algebraic manipulation system writtten (I believe) in PL/I. All symbolic algebra systems I know of require variable-precision arithmetic. (I wrote a couple of System/360 assembler subroutines for George Collins' SAC-1 system in the early 1970s.)

Re: Carmine Cannatello's book - off list

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Lost
, Fri - 240-482-7349 >>> Email - gregory.g...@irs.gov >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:ASSEMBLER-LIST@ >>> listserv.uga.edu] >>> On Behalf Of McNeill,Cliff >>> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2

Re: FORMAC (was: Carmine Cannatello's book)

2014-01-17 Thread Scott Ford
John, Thank you very much. Hadn't been exposed to it...so I was curious to what it was and who developed it Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:18 PM, John Ehrman wrote: > > FORMAC was a symbolic computation, algebraic manipulation system writtten > (I bel

Re: FORMAC (was: Carmine Cannatello's book)

2014-01-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 January 2014 12:18, John Ehrman wrote: > FORMAC was a symbolic computation, algebraic manipulation system writtten > (I believe) in PL/I. All symbolic algebra systems I know of require > variable-precision arithmetic. (I wrote a couple of System/360 assembler > subroutines for George Collin